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Telescoape si antigel (lichid racire) R 19

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reno-Narcis
post 28 Apr 2006, 15:07
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Stie cineva telescoape compatibile de la alte masini (eventual Dacia) care sa se potriveasca unui Renault 19.

PS: Intrebare de incepator: pe timp de primavara-vara-toamna e bine sa schimb in totalitate apa din radiator? (acum am concentratia apa-antigel pt iarna)... Astept raspunsuri, multumesc.

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post 28 Apr 2006, 15:27
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despre telescoape nu prea stiu ...

Intrebare: pai si daca scoti lichidul care este acum in sistemul de racire ce pui ? doar apa distilata fara antigel ? daca da ... atunci e gresit (din cate stiu eu) deoarece pompa de apa se va strica mult mai repede ... asta 1 si 2 ... daca masina are destul lichid de racire in motor si acesta nu este acolo de peste 4 ani atunci e ok ... astfel ca NU trebuie schimbat lichidul de racire in fiecare primavara si toamna ...


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post 28 Apr 2006, 15:58
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De ce intreb in legatura cu schimbarea lichidului de racire. Am impresia ca are o vascozitate destul de mare, si m-am gandit ca daca il schimb evit o eventuala supraincalzire a motorului, vara in traficul de bucuresti..


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post 28 Apr 2006, 15:59
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Pai cand l-ai pus ? ce antigel ai folosit ? cat antigel cata apa ?


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post 28 Apr 2006, 16:09
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Asta se facea in service... si din cate stiu destul antigel...ca am luat 2L. Si a verificat mecanicul cu "ustensila" aia a lui...
PS: din cate stiam se da tot lichidul de racire jos...se pune apa distilata si vreo jumatate de litru de antigel...sa nu rugineasca instalatia. Acum nu sunt sigur daca asta e procedura.

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post 28 Apr 2006, 16:26
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Eu zic sa-l lasi asa cum este ca e ok, dar faci cum vrei ... sau astepti si alte pareri ... bafta


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post 28 Apr 2006, 16:50
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andrei, de unde stii tu de 4 ani? eu am o imagine in cap cu un abtibild, de pe 19le pe care l-am avut inaintea astuia, pe care scria ca lichidul de racire se schimba o data la 2 ani...
si in legatura cu concentratia apa - antigel, pe fiecare sticla de antigel te invata cum sa il diluezi (in cazul in care il iei concentrat) astfel in cat sa isi pastreze proprietatile pana la o temperatura anume. spre expl, cel pe care l-am pus eu asta iarna zicea asa:
1litru de antigel la fiecare 2 litri de apa = rezistenta pana la -12 grade
1litru de antigel la fiecare litru de apa = rezistenta pana la -24 grade
si daca umpleai instalatia numai cu antigel ziceau ei ca rezista pana la -48 de grade...
ma rog...l-am pus juma-juma (1l antigel pt fiecare litru de apa) si a rezistat asta iarna...
si...de ce ar fi vascos? cat de vascos?


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post 28 Apr 2006, 16:51
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Ok fiecare masina cu a ei atunci ... la mine asa scrie 4 ani ... si am generalizat ... am gresit ... sorry


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post 28 Apr 2006, 17:13
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Am dat un telefon la mecanicul care m-a rezolvat asta iarna, el a pus la fel.... jumate jumate. Dar ma gandesc ca vara nu am nevoie sa se incalzeasca repede motorul sau eventual sa reziste la -24 grade... Mai mult de asta am intrebat

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post 28 Apr 2006, 17:28
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andrei, mi-am dat si eu cu parerea, n-am dat cu parul smile.gif
ma gandesc ca au mai avansat tehnologia si de aceea acum isi permit sa schimbe antigelul la 4 ani...
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post 28 Apr 2006, 19:00
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Eu stiu ca pe o mare proprietate a antigelului pe langa cea de rezistenta la temperaturi scazute este cea de lubrifiere a pompei de apa si de aceea nu este recomdat nici vara sa nu fie antigel in instalatia de racire.
Poate gresesc dar.....


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post 29 Apr 2006, 09:22
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E o tampenie sa scoti vara amestecul apa antigel din motor si sa pui apa sau sa diminuezi concentratia, nu ajuta la nimic. Lichidul de racire se schimba la intervalul recomandat de Renault si atat, acest interval difera in functie de tipul motorului, motoarele de generatie mai veche degaja mai multa rugina in lichidul de racire si deci trebuie schimbat mai des. Daca ai probleme cu sistemul de racire incearca mai bine sa il cureti, radiatoare date jos, spalare bine cu solutie speciala sub presiune, o sa te minunezi de cata mizerie iese, problema e ca se poate ca la "curatenie" sa se desfunde ceva pori pe la radiatoare daca ii ai.
In final daca nici asta nu da rezultat poti incerca sa iti pui un radiator cu ventilator cu tot de la o motorizare mai mare, cu adaptarile de rigoare la furtune.


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post 29 Apr 2006, 10:20
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QUOTE(BiGBearRO @ Apr 29 2006, 11:22 AM)
...o sa te minunezi de cata mizerie iese...
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post 29 Apr 2006, 10:24
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post 29 Apr 2006, 10:35
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Pai asa o sa fac...o sa dau jos radiatorul si o sa-l curat putin. Nu cred ca are pori...arata ca nou la prima vedere...sa vedem cand il dau jos...


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