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post 7 Jun 2010, 12:34
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Arata mai bine ca laguna. sper sa faca un facelift si la hatch, cica ar fi inlocuitorul lui vel satis.


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Sabíamos que estaba en camino, así que trata de asumirlo lo antes posible. Renault ha tomado el coreano Samsung SM5 y lo ha remarcado para Europa, donde a partir de ahora lo conoceremos por el nombre Latitude. Su misión: sustituir al Vel Satis.

Como ya te hemos contado anteriormente, el SM5 es una berlina de grandes dimensiones (unos 4,9 metros de largo) montada por Renault Samsung Motors, la filial surcoreana del fabricante francés. Se trata en esencia un derivado del Laguna con tres volúmenes reales y un nivel de equipamiento más elevado. Sus similitudes con el Laguna actual no terminan en el chasis ni los motores (2.0 diésel y gasolina, con una futura opción V6), puesto que hasta el interior ha sido transplantado en gran medida. Visto lo visto, como reemplazo del Vel Satis nos parece bastante... churro (tampoco tiene lo que tendríamos que esperar de un Safrane), aunque tal vez sirva para capturar a esos clientes que se escaparon del abrazo de Renault con el lanzamiento del último Laguna y buscan un coche cómodo y con una amplia dotación.



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post 7 Jun 2010, 12:36
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un fel de fluence. oare si asta va fi varianta low cost a gamei reno?


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post 7 Jun 2010, 12:41
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in sfarsit au reusit si ei sa faca o masina care sa arate serios si sa imbine un bot normal si un fund normal de masina in acelasi timp. Acum cand ma uit la spy shot-urile cu laguna facelift, cam seamna cu asta nedumerire.gif . Linia laterala a noului vel satis sa fie ca cea a lagunei?

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post 7 Jun 2010, 12:42
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asta nu e deloc fluence, ba dimpotriva. Partea a doua ca aparut mai intai la sud coreeni


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post 7 Jun 2010, 12:45
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esti sigur ca nu e tot o varianta low cost, facuta pt tarile unde se vinde bine masina cu 4 usi?

are cineva vreun chart cu platformele, cu fabrici si modele cum era prezentarea la fluence?


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post 7 Jun 2010, 12:46
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Arata beton masina...e clar unul din cele mai frumoase Renault-uri....mai ales botul care arata foarte bine.
Ok...arata bine...acum sa ne imaginam masina cu PDG,jante mai mici si un motor de 2.0 16v 140...nu vreau sa fiu carcotas dar nu stiu daca va fi foarte variata gama la inceput,poate pe parcurs la fel cum a fost si cu Megane 3...


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post 7 Jun 2010, 12:47
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QUOTE(b76bgaarh @ 7 Jun 2010, 12:45)
esti sigur ca nu e  tot o varianta low cost, facuta pt tarile unde se vinde bine masina cu 4 usi?

are cineva vreun chart cu platformele, cu fabrici si modele cum era prezentarea la fluence?
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pe planeterenault nu s-a discutat niciodata de un lowcost in clasa medie blush.gif


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post 7 Jun 2010, 12:48
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Pare a fi aceeasi masina care se anunta a fi Safrane.
Pana la urma ce este? Mostenitorul lui Safrane, Laguna sau Velsatis?
La fata seamana cu Passat-ul CC sau cu un Saab.


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post 7 Jun 2010, 12:49
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lasa asta... un chart cu platformele?


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post 7 Jun 2010, 12:50
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Nu seamana cam mult a passat din fata? tongue.gif


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post 7 Jun 2010, 13:12
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ba aduce serios cu passatul din fata... dar n-are nimic ca pana intra asta la vanzare, apare noul passat tongue.gif


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un inceput promitator...


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post 7 Jun 2010, 13:20
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Mi se pare o masina absolut banala. Mai bine pastrau liniile de design futuriste, asa e doar o alta masina pe care nu o remarci nici sa te chinui.


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post 7 Jun 2010, 13:21
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dar cel mai probabil o sa se vanda mai bine ca velsatisul smile.gif


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post 7 Jun 2010, 13:26
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Parca arata mai bine asa cu farurile pe fundal negru decat alea argintii de la SM5. In schimb masca aia mi separe prea masiva, parca e prea mult crom.


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QUOTE(ageana @ 7 Jun 2010, 14:20)
Mai bine pastrau liniile de design futuriste, asa e doar o alta masina pe care nu o remarci nici sa te chinui.
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Problema e ca lumea vrea masini masive fara design indraznet... asta se cere asta se vinde. Cat de remarcat... o sa fie remarcata wink.gif


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post 7 Jun 2010, 13:46
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Clar ca o sa vanda mai mult, zic doar ca era mai frumos VelSatis-ul, si alte masini reno fara un bot si un fund normal.
Sa-i lasam pe nemti sa se ocupe de astea mai normale zic tongue.gif


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Pare ok ca design, destul de unitar. In clasa aia s-a demonstrat deja ca nu e loc de artificii. Dar in ultima poza parca prea e din alt film sigla, mai ales ca e vorba de o poza oficiala, care stim cu totii ca sunt alese sa arate cel mai bine, de multe ori chiar departe de adevarul de pe strada. huh.gif


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post 7 Jun 2010, 16:00
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THE WRAPS COME OFF RENAULT LATITUDE
Renault has today provided the first glimpse of its latest international status-enhancing
family saloon, Renault Latitude. In addition to its nicely balanced proportions, generous
exterior dimensions, large boot and front-end looks which mirror the power of the engines
featured in the new range, the newcomer boasts elegant, racy styling. Based on an
architecture that is widely acclaimed for its strength and efficiency, Renault's new saloon
rounds off the brand's high-end range and will appeal to customers who are looking for
status, quality and comfort in all its forms. The international version of Renault Latitude will
get its first public airing at the Moscow Motor Show at the end of August, while European
motorists will be able to get their first close-up view of the car at the 2010 Paris Motor
Show.
In addition to its generous exterior dimensions (length: 4.89m / width: 1.83m / height: 1.49m),
Renault Latitude boasts elegant, racy looks. The contours of the grille are flanked by distinctive bi-
Xenon adaptive directional headlights, while chrome embellishments contribute to the
unmistakable impression of dynamism and status exuded by the car's overall lines. Its rear-end
forms point to ample boot space, and the new car can effectively claim one of the biggest boots in
its class. The rear lighting signature employs LED technology and harmonizes perfectly with the
chrome rear strip which carries the new model's name: Renault Latitude. Based on the same
architecture as New SM5, which was recently launched in the Korean market, Renault Latitude
profits extensively from Renault's engineering expertise. Occupants benefit from a comfortable,
silent ride, as well as a particularly precise chassis and a choice of powerplants that are sure to
give it a decisive edge over its rivals. For enhanced quality and reliability, Renault Latitude comes
with a number of features developed and assembled to the Alliance's highest standards and which
benefit directly from the excellent results obtained by Renault on these two fronts. The complete
equipment list, which will be revealed at a later date, places the emphasis on innovation and
travelling comfort, including a dual-mode air ionizer with double fragrance diffuser, triple-zone
climate control, a massaging driver's seat, Bose Premium audio, the Renault hands-free card, etc.
Tailored to meet the demand of its different markets, Renault Latitude's specification will deliver
the car's different customers a truly high-end package that will position it as the spearhead of
international Renault's saloon car range. It will be shown at the forthcoming Moscow Motor Show,
Russia, and is due to go on sale this autumn in Asia, Africa, Russia, Turkey, Gulf, Australia and
Mexico.
European version of Renault Latitude will be one of the principal new attractions of the 2010 Paris
Motor Show where visitors will get a chance to examine its interior design, while full details of the
model's equipment lists and engines ranges will also be released. The international media will be
invited to road test Renault Latitude before the end of 2010, and sales will begin shortly
afterwards.
From June 10, customers will be invited to discover the car in greater detail at www.renaultlatitude.com.

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adica EN nu avem, sau e doar pentru tarile alea masina asta?

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post 7 Jun 2010, 17:07
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http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/acesta-este...atis-30965.html

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post 7 Jun 2010, 20:25
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QUOTE(b76bgaarh @ 7 Jun 2010, 12:49)
lasa asta... un chart cu platformele?
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iesea la iveala daca era un lowcost ce am gasit e urmatoarea:

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post 7 Jun 2010, 21:33
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stergatoarele sunt puse invers! smile.gif


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post 7 Jun 2010, 21:58
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QUOTE(aphophis @ 7 Jun 2010, 20:25)
iesea la iveala daca era un lowcost ce am gasit e urmatoarea:
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Cam ciudat ce ai gasit. Care e sursa?

Laguna III imi "pute" in tot peisajul pentru ca e singura cu suspensie semirigida pe spate. Restul au independenta.

Probabil ca e vorba de o platforma serios modificata, asa cum si Duster e pe platforma Logan (B0), dar versiunea de top are multi link pe spate.

Masina nu arata rau. E echilibrata. La fel a fost socul cand am vazut Megane III. Toata lumea zicea ca e banal, dar pana acum cei de la Renault se lauda ca vanzarile merg bine in Europa.

Oricum, Latitude vine fara background si va avea mari dificultati sa se impuna in Europa in fata Passat, Mondeo, Insignia. Masinile astea (mai putin Insignia) au istorie in spate si o imagine mult mai buna decat navele amiral scoase de Renault.

Singurul punct forte ar putea fi pretul. Vom vedea.

Pentru cei care vorbesc de Safrane... practic Latitude este inlocuitorul lui VelSatis, care la randul sau a inlocuit Safrane, care la randul lui a inlocuit Renault 25.

Safrane a fost numele vehiculat de presa pentru noua limuzina Renault, dar iata ca nu s-a confirmat.


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post 7 Jun 2010, 22:02
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oricum o tampenie ca au renuntat la numele safrane. Din cate stiu eu masina a avut un oaresce succes (oricum mai mare ca velsatisul) , i-ar fi ajutat numele zic eu. Sursa e de pe un blog frantuzesc ( http://www.leblogauto.com/ ) , si ma bazez pe faptul ca nu am gasit pe planeterenault ceva discutii despre acest inlocuitor al velsatisului ca ar fi un lowcost. E drept insa ca e un fel de superb (adica un fel de laguna 3 lungita) deci nu prea e de drept masina de clasa mare. Dar nu sunt singurii, de exemplu stiam ca passat are platforma lungita de golf V


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De ce am eu impresia cã acest Latitude e în aceeaºi mãsurã de low cost precum Fluence?


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post 7 Jun 2010, 22:13
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pentru ca vrei tu sa ai impresia asta smile.gif


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Nu am spus ca e low cost. Nu are cum sa fie, sau chiar daca va fi nimeni nu va recunoaste asta oficial.

Nu se vor lauda cum fac cu Logan... iata limuzina low-cost: Latitude. Nu ar da bine la imagine.

Ce spui tu cu Skoda Superb... cam asa e. Diferenta intre grupul Renault si grupul Volkswagen este aceea ca nemtii au reusit mai din timp si mai bine sa dezvolte platforme globale.

Renault se straduieste si singura reusita e cu Logan, mai exact platforma B0.

Ca sa nu mai zic ca platforma globala a grupului Volkswagen are arhitectura cu suspensie independenta pe spate de la clasa Golf (compacta) in sus, iar Renault duce lipsa de asa ceva...

Atentie, nu spun ca e mai prost Renault si mai bun Volkswagen. E vorba de solutii tehnice diferite si de preturi diferite. VW mai sus, Renault mai jos. Ambele sunt corecte la banii lor.

Apropos de Skoda Superb... este cea mai reusita masina de clasa medie pe care am condus-o vreodata. Ma refer la marci de volum. E peste Mondeo, Passat, Laguna, Insignia. Pur si simplu merge aproape ca un Audi A6.


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Este masina de clasa mare, deci pa-pa Safrane si orice alt urmas al lui Velsatis.

Este facuta pe aceeasi platforma cu SM5, dar in acelasi stil ca SM3: desi masina coreeana precede masina franceza, nu avem de-a face cu o masina coreeana cu badge Renault, ci cu o masina franceza cu badge coreean, lansata mai intai in Coreea.

Mie unul nu imi place absolut deloc, o pun langa Laguna si plang. Cineva din departamentul de design de la Renault ar trebui dat afara, daca nu tot departamentul. Renault facea masini frumoase, masini inovatoare, masini extravagante si care te puneau pe ganduri. Asta?!

Nu ii pot reprosa absolut nimic designului in afara de lipsa acuta de originalitate. O sa am dificultati mari in a o deosebi de vreo japoneza/sud-coreeana in trafic. Pacat, mare pacat. Probabil ca dupa experienta nefericita cu VelSatis (care mie mi-a placut enorm) au zis sa nu mai riste...

Sa speram ca va compensa prin raportul dotari-pret, unde ar trebui sa rupa. O sa revin asupra motorizarilor cat de curand pot.

ps. atentie, e semnificativ mai mare ca Superb. E in clasa mare.

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din pacate daca vor sa vanda, trebuie sa faca masini mai normale. Se pot face si masini normale frumoase (laguna 3 coupe, megane 3 coupe si tourer), espace 4 si tot asa, insa mai trebuie sa fei si fiabile. Iar renault incepe incet incet sa-si revina se pare. Oricum din pacate ca sa cumpere renault orice nea gheorghe, trebuie sa ii placa si cum multora nu le plac ozn-urile..

Oricum maddane, plangi comparativ cu laguna 2 sau laguna 3? tongue.gif


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