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post 22 Jul 2008, 23:15
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Dacia Logan 1.5DCI care merge fara probleme pe drumurile publice omorandu-ne plamanii cu probleme serioase la sistemul de supraalimentare, cel mai probabil.

Inregistrat de mine (de fapt colegul meu a filmat ca eu era la big_wheel.gif ) acum 2 zile pe Magheru. Desi atunci m-am amuzant, daca stai sa te gandesti cate masini merg asa e cam trist.. huh.gif

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Mie-mi place de ala cu "i-a facut cip" nedumerire.gif cel mai tare!

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Si nu stiu de ce cred eu ca passatul in care erai tu fumega - in stilul lor caracteristic - cel putin la fel de bine ca loganul wink.gif


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post 22 Jul 2008, 23:22
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Colegul meu a facut mentiunea asta... bicycle.gif

P.S. Stiu ca Passaturile nu sunt tocmai apreciate, de aceea n-am mentionat nimic, dar aveti ochi bun rolleyes.gif .

P.P.S. Nu fumega, va asigur... rolleyes.gif

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post 23 Jul 2008, 08:58
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Da oricum fumega mai mult decat un dci in stare normala. Te asigur eu!

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Da oricum fumega mai mult decat un dci in stare normala. Te asigur eu!

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post 23 Jul 2008, 09:18
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sunt o gramada in genul asta si pe taxi. Si Clio are aceeasi problema...


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post 23 Jul 2008, 10:13
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@drk. Nu cred ca in halul asta... Totusi... Trebuie sa fie si niste reactii adverse ale motorului daca tot mergi in stilul asta...

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post 23 Jul 2008, 10:20
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merg mult si bine asa, cel putin 3 bucati de taxi Logan dci am vazut in ultima saptamana la mine in oras cu fum chiar mai mult..si miroase groaznic 251.gif


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post 23 Jul 2008, 11:03
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sunt gramada in bucuresti.. Fix in acelasi fel. Probabil ca dupa un numar de kilometrii incep sa apara probleme pe care daca nu le rezolvi se transforma in ce vedem in filmulet...


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post 23 Jul 2008, 20:54
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Problema e mult mai simpla si tine strrict de variabila dintre volan si scaun. Desi de diesel, e recomandat sa se schimbe vitezele undeva la 3000 rpm, altfel, se imbacsesc toate tobele, in timp putand aparea probleme serioase in functionarea masinii, si se poate lasa cu schimbare de injectoare care nu sunt tocmai ieftine. wink.gif


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post 23 Jul 2008, 21:39
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post 23 Jul 2008, 22:31
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Am vazut in service un logan cu aceeasi problema.Fum la greu iar cand dadea de un deal sau ceva pierdea putere. Solutia a fost schimbarea turbinei.


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post 24 Jul 2008, 09:02
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QUOTE(disaster @ 23 Jul 2008, 20:54)
Problema e mult mai simpla si tine strrict de variabila dintre volan si scaun. Desi de diesel, e recomandat sa se schimbe vitezele undeva la 3000 rpm, altfel, se imbacsesc toate tobele, in timp putand aparea probleme serioase in functionarea masinii, si se poate lasa cu schimbare de injectoare care nu sunt tocmai ieftine. wink.gif
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Injectoare ca injectoare! De obicei se "buleste" turbina la mersul subturat datorita fenomenului de "surge" ..adica aceasta intra in rezonanta. Acolo era fum negru. Parerea mea intercooler fisurat sau ceva tubulatura sparta, sarita sau neetansa.


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post 25 Jul 2008, 22:30
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Mie mi-a placut ca atunci cand ati ajuns exact langa Logan, ati mutat telefonu' spre bordu' masinii voastre, si n-ati continuat sa filmati. De ce, nu stiu... 04.gif Rusine? blush.gif


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post 28 Jul 2008, 21:19
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QUOTE(1.6 @ 24 Jul 2008, 09:02)
Injectoare ca injectoare! De obicei se "buleste" turbina la mersul subturat datorita fenomenului de "surge" ..adica aceasta intra in rezonanta. Acolo era fum negru. Parerea mea intercooler fisurat sau ceva tubulatura sparta, sarita sau neetansa.
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La cantitatea respectiva de fum parerea mea e ca ori intercooler spart sau turbina cu probleme. Daca tubulatura e sparta de obicei va fi putin fum negru dar nu in cantitatile in care sunt in filmulet.

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Mie mi-a placut ca atunci cand ati ajuns exact langa Logan, ati mutat telefonu' spre bordu' masinii voastre, si n-ati continuat sa filmati. De ce, nu stiu...  Rusine?


Rusine de ce? wacko.gif De 40 km/h cu care mergeam ca nu inteleg. wacko.gif Nu am vrut sa filmam interiorul tocmai pentru a nu crede colegii de pe forum ca a fost un filmulet facut special "comparativ".

Pur si simplu am semnalat ceva care la momentul respectiv mi s-a parut amuzant, acum mi se pare revoltator pt ca fumul respectiv intra in plamanii nostri, indiferent ca fumul vine de la Dacia, VW, Mercedes etc... Stiu ca masina asta e hulita pe tot forumul ca un fel oglinda a SH-ismului, a nesimtirii, a manelismului si ce mai doriti dumnevoastra... O sa-mi fac curaj si voi posta la rubrica de jurnal de bord o scurta descriere a ambelor fiare ... happy.gif


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post 31 Jul 2008, 22:36
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pai si ce e asa amuzant ca are masina stricata ?


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post 31 Jul 2008, 23:20
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Am vazut azi pe la Izvor un BMW 320D .... arata foarte frumos ... dar scotea un fum MAI RAU decat asta cu loganu' ... Era pe aici un clip cu un BMW X5 cu probleme la turbo .. cam asa scotea asta fum ... se facea nor ( LA PROPRIU ! ) blink.gif mellow.gif


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Mers subturat "la economie" si in timp "bye, bye" turbina. Asa ca economia la combustibil este falsa. Pentru un 0,5l/100km se dau dupa o vreme (50 - 80k) bani frumosi pe turbina.


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post 1 Aug 2008, 07:02
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dupa cum se vede nu se dau, merg in continuare asa.


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turbinele alea oricum cad si cu mers economic si cu blana... dar in fine...


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post 7 Mar 2009, 21:34
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Backed by popular demand... laugh.gif

Vineri pe Kiseleff, Logan iar firma de interventie, scotea un fum gros alb/albastru, probabil chiar turbina facuta praf de data asta.

Din pacate gradul de uzura a ambreiajului de la Nova mea e destul de mare si nu m-am putut tine dupa el sa inregistrez mai bine evenimentul tongue.gif


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asa face lagunica mea :(saptamana asta ii schib turbina


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post 8 Mar 2009, 12:28
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cate taxiuri nu am vazut asa si aici...da' mai demult, ca au cam disparut, au trecut cam toti taximetristii pe mpi eventual cu gpl ca dci-ul ii aducea la sapa de lemn.


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post 8 Mar 2009, 13:05
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te pomenesti ca o fi vina masinii ca aia nu o exploatau corespunzator


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post 8 Mar 2009, 13:12
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Ala cu fum alb are probleme la injectie. Dar daca scoate fum negru mult, poate sa fie din cauza intercoolerului spart, sau a vreunui furtun sarit.
Poate sa sara o piatra de pe sosea si sa fisureze intercoolerul.

Executron: ce ai de vanezi Loganuri stricate ?

Oricum la TDI nu-ti dai seama dupa fum niciodata daca e stricat. laugh.gif

Si repara ambreiajul, ca asa te face si un Logan stricat. tongue.gif

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post 8 Mar 2009, 15:58
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QUOTE(aphophis @ 8 Mar 2009, 14:05)
te pomenesti ca o fi vina masinii ca aia nu o exploatau corespunzator
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de ce nu, de tdi nu am auzit pe nicunul sa se planga in aceleasi conditii de exploatare, in asta sta fiabilitatea unui motor, exploatarea in orice conditii. Nu e problema numai de fum la dci-uri, cand dau asa fum incep si huruieli ciudate, si nu mai merge mult.


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post 8 Mar 2009, 16:19
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QUOTE(argon @ 8 Mar 2009, 15:58)
de ce nu, de tdi nu am auzit pe nicunul sa se planga in aceleasi conditii de exploatare, in asta sta fiabilitatea unui motor, exploatarea in orice conditii.  Nu e problema numai de fum la dci-uri, cand dau asa fum incep si huruieli ciudate, si nu mai merge mult.
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adica un tedeeiii (frate) rezista la subturari si maltratari? De ce exista atunci topicul asta pe vwforum? http://vwforum.vwforum.ro/index.php?showto...t=540&start=540

Nu am cunostinte solide de mecanica, insa daca , caut pun pariu ca gasesc o gramada de fauveuri (tedei) cu probleme la motor happy.gif


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@argon: ai grija ce zici de Sfintu'Renault (era sa zic sfintu'asteapta, dar frica de aphophis m-a facut sa revin imefiat cu pidioarele pe pamint), ca te omoara.... da, aphophis. Daca mai pomenesti si de VAG, ai rupt-o: aphohphis vegheaza, nu uita si nu iarta (mai rau ca Partidu').

@aphophis: asa-i, mai - Lumea incepe, si se termina, la dci. Alfa si Omega, si mai multe nu. Cine zice ca-ti trebuiesc cunostinte solide de mecanica? ce, aia din ministere au cunostinte de vre-un fel? si uite ce bine merge treaba! Baga mare, coane - caci cunostintele sunt fudulie, parerile-s temelie. Vive la France!


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adica nu s-a stricat niciodata un tdi? laugh.gif iar aia care se plang pe forumuri, is de fapt renaultisti sub acoperire? radmasa.gif

Da stiu, un fauve nu se defecteaza niciodata, renaulturile si daciile is de rahat, nu vezi ce frumos a demonstrat argon asta wub.gif wub.gif


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