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raducostel2006
post 24 Jun 2013, 18:43
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Vreau sa/mi spuneti, va rog, daca in problema pe care am intalnit/o in trafic are un rost ambreiajul la care ma gandesc eu. Zilele trecute, urcand o rampa cam de 10 metri cu un unghi, sa zic, de 45 de grade, am apasat ambreiajul si frana de picior, avand in fata o alta masina. Masina, cand am ridicat piciorul pentru a apasa acceleratia, a luat/o inapoi si m/a obligat sa ridic frana de mana. Normal, daca aveam ambreiajul apasat, nu ar fi trebuit sa stea pe loc pana actionam acceleratia? Plecarea din panta o fac cam in socuri, incercand sa apas acceleratia cam la jumatate si ridicand, la acelasi nivel ambreiajul. Insa, am surpriza ca, ori de cate ori plec din panta, sa o ia masina inapoi. Ce nu tine??? Ce nu fac corect? La logan, atunci cand am facut scoala, am invatat sa plec din panta/rampa atunci cand vibreaza masina, avand piciorul pe ambreiaj, cu frana de mana trasa si cu aceleratia apasata treptat pana simteam acea vibratie a autovehiculului, cam pe la jumatate. Ce nu e reglat??? NU stiu daca m/am facut inteles dar astept un raspuns. Multumesc!


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post 24 Jun 2013, 18:47
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Nu, nu ar fi trebuit sa stea pe loc.
Si panta aia n-avea 45 de grade.


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post 24 Jun 2013, 19:22
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QUOTE(raducostel2006 @ 24 Jun 2013, 18:43)
Normal, daca aveam ambreiajul apasat, nu ar fi trebuit sa stea pe loc pana actionam acceleratia?
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nu...normal masina pleaca doar cand ai ridicat piciorul de pe frana si masina fiind deja turata....inca nici pana acum nu stii ca atunci cand esti cu pedala de ambreiaj apasata este ca si scoasa pe liber?.....incearca sa lasi masina pe liber intr`o panta si sa ne spui si noua ce sa intamplat dupa asta wink.gif aceste lucruri sunt niste notiuni de baza....ma mir cum unii si`au luat permisul fara ca instructorii sa ii invete notiunile de baza bash.gif

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post 24 Jun 2013, 19:33
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Examen prost.


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post 24 Jun 2013, 23:42
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Parerea mea e ca trebuie accelerata mai mult, asta daca am inteles bine ce vroiai sa explici. Daca esti obisnuit cu un Logan diesel care pleaca din orice panta cu 2000 de ture asta nu inseamna ca masina ta are ceva. A ta e pe benzina, e mult mai grea si trebuie turata mai mult. Bineinteles daca ai ambreiajul apasat pana la podea nu mai conteaza ce masnia ai, toate se duc la vale.


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post 25 Jun 2013, 12:20
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Parerea mea este "problema sofer", ar fi bine sa-ti alegi o rampa la fel ca cea descrisa, doar ca ar fi bine sa o alegi pe un camp unde sa fi doar tu , sa te poti desfasura in liniste (si sa nu calci vreo faptura). Urci rampa pana la jumatate, calci frana, scoti din viteze, tragi frana de mana, masina nu trebuie sa o ia la vale in cazul asta, apoi bagi in viteza 1, acelerezi putin si ramai cu ea accelerata cam pe la 1500 si lasi usor ambreajul pana trepideaza usor masina, lasi usor frana de mana si ar trebuii sa ramai in acelasi punct fara sa o iei la vale, apoi accelerezi mai mult si lasi mai departe ambreajul usor si ar trebuii sa ajungi in varf victorios. Daca nu merge mai ai o varianta, chemi taxiul. Sa ma scuzi daca sunt prea aspru.


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post 25 Jun 2013, 14:20
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asta din poza e panta ta....
greu de crezut.

adevarul ca la plecarea din rampa mare trebuie exercitiu.
repetitia e sfanta.
in timpul scolii nu ai avut timp sa iti insusesti la perfectie lucrul acesta.
multa bafta in demersul tau!

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post 25 Jun 2013, 14:28
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H1 urca cu greu 45 de grade, si avea nush-cate nivele de demultiplicare...


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post 26 Jun 2013, 19:15
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In primul rand pornirea din rampa nu se face cu frana de mana wink.gif. Testat de mine, de zeci de ori, calci frana, lasi incet ambreajul pana incepe sa tremure masina, il mentii acolo, lasi frana(daca ai facut tot corect, nu are voie sa mearga in spate!!!!) si accelerezi. Functioneaza garantat, asa se preda la scoli, cel putin in cluj wink.gif


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post 27 Jun 2013, 08:49
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QUOTE(cj77shv @ 26 Jun 2013, 19:15)
In primul rand pornirea din rampa nu se face cu frana de mana wink.gif. Testat de mine, de zeci de ori, calci frana, lasi incet ambreajul pana incepe sa tremure masina, il mentii acolo, lasi frana(daca ai facut tot corect, nu are voie sa mearga in spate!!!!) si accelerezi. Functioneaza garantat, asa se preda la scoli, cel putin in cluj wink.gif
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post 27 Jun 2013, 08:51
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Vai de amaratii care vor cumpara masinile voastre...


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post 27 Jun 2013, 09:03
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QUOTE(R19/16v @ 27 Jun 2013, 09:51)
Vai de amaratii care vor cumpara masinile voastre...
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La cine te referi? Adica ale cui masini?


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post 27 Jun 2013, 09:21
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A ta si a sfatosului de mai sus...


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post 27 Jun 2013, 09:27
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De ce? Adica pe mine asa m'a invatat instructorul, si inca vreo 4 persoane care au facut cu alti instructori, au invatat in acelasi mod.. E gresit?


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post 27 Jun 2013, 09:29
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Da! Cand tremura masina chinui si cutia, si ambreiajul si motorul...
Pleacarea in rampa se face lasand frana de mana si sincronizand ambreiajul cu acceleratia astfel incat primul sa patineze cat mai putin.

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post 27 Jun 2013, 09:32
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Pai inseamna ca desteptii astia invata gresit! Mie mi'o zis ca doar asa o accepta la examen, ca daca o faci cu frana de mana o considera gresita :|


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post 27 Jun 2013, 09:36
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Nu inteleg de ce ar fi gresita? Ca n-ai ambele maini pe volan sau ce?
Alte pareri?

Oricum eu nu mi-as chinui masina asa cum v-a invatat pe voi...

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post 27 Jun 2013, 09:40
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Nu stiu, mie asa mi'o zis :|. Oricum mi se parea ca face urat, clar, numa cu frana de mana de acuma

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post 27 Jun 2013, 12:46
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Asa te invata instructorul, asa ai sa procedezi pana incepi sa simti cum sta treaba "cu fiarele", apoi ai sa faci miscarea doar din pedale si fara trepidatii. Sa nu crezi ca asa imi torturez eu masina, dar i-am explicat in asa fel incat sa inteleaga mai bine.


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