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logan 1.5dci vs passat 1.9tdi, :))

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post 29 Jan 2008, 23:44
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din intamplare am dat de asta...

oare chiar asa demaraj are loganu incat sa faca un passat de 1.9tdi? sincer nu am avut ocazia sa conduc decat 1.4 pe benzina si nu m`a incatat prea tare...


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post 29 Jan 2008, 23:51
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post 29 Jan 2008, 23:52
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R19/16v>>Argumente tehnice?? intr un cuvant...De ce DA?? blink.gif

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post 29 Jan 2008, 23:54
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...ce porcarie! radmasa.gif
passat 1.9 TDI = 131cp
logan 1.5. DCi = 65 sau 70cp radmasa.gif
...cred ca asta spune tot icon_mrgreen.gif


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post 30 Jan 2008, 00:04
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1. 1.5dci - 79 cai/t, 1.9TDI - 82cai/t
2. 1.9TDI poate sa aiba 115 cai:
QUOTE(tdiclub.com)
1.9 litre 4-cylinder 115hp "PD" - again similar to the A4-type engine but with the "pump-nozzle" injection system. Although the peak power is only slightly more than the 110, maximum torque is much higher and the engine has lower exhaust emissions. VW intends to gradually replace the 110hp models with this engine. Not available in North America, reportedly because the exhaust emission controls used on this engine cannot be used with fuels containing greater than 50 parts per million of sulfur, whereas at this writing (1999) fuels in North America can have as much as 500 parts per million.

Models with this engine have badges with a silver "T" and red "DI".


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post 30 Jan 2008, 00:13
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Passatul B5.5 adica cel din imagine a fost disponibil la vremea lui cu urmatorele motorizari:

1. 1.9TDI-101cp
2. 1.9TDI-131cp
3. 2.5TDI-150cp

In nici un caz nu cred ce e acolo.Mi se pare o aberatie crunta...poate daca passatul avea turbina defecta..nici asa nu cred.. wacko.gif

PS:Motorul de 115cp este pe cel fabricat pana in 2001 si il bate de la distanta si pe cel de 1.9Dci de 120 cp!

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post 30 Jan 2008, 00:18
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Dac'asa zici tu, asa o fi, dar daca o spunea unul care sa n-aiba golf in semnatura, il credeam wink.gif


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post 30 Jan 2008, 00:22
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Nu e vorba de asta...insa e vorba de puterea motoarelor si de masinile care sunt acolo.Daca nu aveam Golf in semnatura ma credeai??...hai ca il scot...astea sunt specificatiile motoarelor...sa nu mai vb de cuplu...

In fine...eu am dat datele tehnice si nu mai era nevoie sa imi exprim parerea...de subintelege...


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post 30 Jan 2008, 00:26
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Wiki nu e de acord cu postul #6


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post 30 Jan 2008, 00:28
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nici eu nu cred ... e regizat filmuletu tongue.gif


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post 30 Jan 2008, 00:41
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QUOTE(youtube)
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corectare, are doar i rosu si doar 101 cai, acum am aflat. deci un 101 cai contra 85 cai.


Mystery solved...


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post 30 Jan 2008, 01:00
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si poate sunt ceva diferente si la greutatea masinii? wink.gif
Da daca ar alerga de 3 ori mai mult ca distanta care ar fi rezultatul?


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post 30 Jan 2008, 01:08
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Passatul are aprox 1500kg.Nu stiu cat are Loganul...insa ceea ce este evident este cuplul masinilor...adica din datele tehnice se poate deduce rezulatatul clar..pe langa asta haideti totusi sa fim realisti... sleep.gif


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post 30 Jan 2008, 01:18
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1075kg are loganul.

Si cam ce inseamna
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pe langa asta haideti totusi sa fim realisti...
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post 30 Jan 2008, 05:54
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QUOTE(R19/16v @ 30 Jan 2008, 01:04)
1. 1.5dci - 79 cai/t

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blink.gif ?
...n-ai logan in semnatura, deci nu te prea cred wink.gif biggrin.gif

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post 30 Jan 2008, 07:00
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explicatia e simpla: soferul passatului alimenta motorina de pe marginea variantei, de la tractoristi, pe cand "pilotul" Loganului alimenta doar de la PECO de firma blink.gif
Ei, cum vi se pare? radmasa.gif


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post 30 Jan 2008, 10:45
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Tipul cu loganul rosu a amai aparut de cateva ori pe youtube...intr-unul din filmulete si-a lasat o pereche de cauciucuri pe asfalt.

Loganul are motor de 65 hp si probabil "cipuit". Dus pe undeva pe la 80-90hp si avnd o masa mai mica este posibil ca filmuletul sa fie real. Asta in conditiile in care passatul sa aiba motorul de 105 hp.

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post 30 Jan 2008, 10:48
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Explicatia e clara..Passat-ul e cel de 101 cai si la greutatea lui demareaza mai greu. Si apropo cel de 115 cai nu se compara cu dci-ul de 120 de cai, avantaj clar in favoarea dci-ului.


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post 30 Jan 2008, 11:21
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=)) .... super tare faza .... mai conduc un caddy din cand in cand ... 101 hp ... si n-a prea stat logan in fata smile.gif) ... da passatu` ala de 131 hp ... DI-rosu ... sa fie batut de logan ... mdea


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post 30 Jan 2008, 11:27
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cum a fost explicat si mai sus intr-un post daca are DI rosu nu inseamna ca are 131 CP!!!
inainte de a afirma ceva documentati-va!!!!!!!!!


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post 30 Jan 2008, 11:33
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dc crezi u ca nu are 131 hp daca are DI-rosu ??? ca nu cunosc pe nimeni care sa le fi vopsit ... si chiar daca ar avea 101 ....


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post 30 Jan 2008, 11:51
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vad ca esti in necunostinta de cauza..deci no comment
mai vb cand o sa ai cunostinte minime de motorizari.
si nu stiu ce vi se pare asa aberant ca un logan sa demareze mai bine ca un passat..dar na, asta-i lumea...


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post 30 Jan 2008, 12:28
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da u lucrezi la VAG .... de cunosti asa de bine motorizarile ????


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post 30 Jan 2008, 12:32
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Nu frate dar am cunostinte minime despre genul masinilor si motorizarile lor, plus de asta masina de serv e un Passat.


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Exista Passat cu DI rosu cu 101 cai...


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Daca motorul Logan-ului era turat pana pe la 4500, iar al Passat-ului la, sa zic, vreo 3000? Ma-ntreb si io... si pe voi... ar fi fost posibil?


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...ar mai fi o explicatie: sa fie busita turbina passat-ului tongue.gif


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post 30 Jan 2008, 17:58
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Acum poate ma invart....daca Loganul e cipuit...nu stiu la cat poate ajunge maxim..cred ca aprox la 90-100cp si Passatul mai are vreo 200.000km in bord atunci totul e posibil.Trebuie sa tinem cont totusi si de greutatea masinilor.Passatul Variant are aprx 1500-1600kg iar Loganul 1000 deci dupa un calcul scurt avantaj Logan la raportul cal/kg....
E foarte posibil...

Uite cum ma invart daca am calculat un pic lucrurile biggrin.gif ....

PS:Sigur e de 101cp.Cel de 131 rupe aderenta.... smile.gif

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post 30 Jan 2008, 18:01
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