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Symbol 70 cp VS 65 cp, De ce difera

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post 11 Oct 2007, 11:53
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Salutare tuturor ,

As vrea si eu sa aflu de unde apare diferenta de Cp ( 65&70 ) dintre modelele de Symbol Phase4 pt ca eu am masina din semnatura din Septembrie 2007 care are 70 Cp si motor EURO 4 , iar pe oferta la Renault din luna octombrie apare Symbol cu 65 Cp tot cu EURO 4. Puteti sa ma lamuriti si pe mine de unde apare diferenta , teoretic masinile fiind identice... unsure.gif

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post 11 Oct 2007, 12:00
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injectoare, turbina, ecu


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post 11 Oct 2007, 12:30
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Nu e nici o diferenta, decat ca asa apare pe site (ala de 70 are de fapt 68CP).


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post 11 Oct 2007, 12:38
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Doar ca el nu a intrebat de ala de 68.


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post 11 Oct 2007, 13:05
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Pai....stati oleaca baieti.

Eu ce sa mai inteleg...??? Deci...masina mea are 70 Cp , asta din oferta din luna octombrie are 65 Cp , si pana la urma masina are 68 Cp ???...sincer nu prea inteleg...doar sunt facute probabil in acelasi lot NU?
Am inteles eu ca cei de la Renault au rotunjit oleaca cu pixul de la 68 la 70 dar asta dc are acuma 65 ...si nu ...sa zicem 68 ? cum ziceti voi ca e normal??? unsure.gif


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post 11 Oct 2007, 13:08
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Cred ca nu e vorba de acelasi motor, vad ca difera consumurile pe care le dau ei: 3,6 extraurban si 5,7 urban. La ala de 70 cp erau: 4 extraurban, 5,5 urban.


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post 11 Oct 2007, 13:37
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diferente fata de K9K 790 (65cp E3)
+ norme depoluare Euro4 (125 g/Km CO2)
+ schimbator de caldura aer/aer (air/air intercooler)
+ senzor debit de aer admisie
+ senzor de temperatura aer admisie - cuplat cu senzorul de debit de aer admisie
+ EGR este comandat cu un motor, in loc de electrovana
+ senzor pozitie EGR
+ posibilitate de intrare in mod "avarie" cu pierdere de putere dar
motorul inca functioneaza cand pompa de injectie nu mai poate
asigura debitul nominal (din cauza temperaturii motorinei, uzurii pieselor
sau infundarii filtrului de motorina, etc.)

Am observat si eu pe site-ul renault ca apar dci-urile de 65cp si 85cp... Cred ca este o eroare intrucat nu se mai comercializeaza de mult cel de 65cp.


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post 11 Oct 2007, 13:51
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cel de 65CP E3 este k9k 700 (fara AC) sau 704 cu AC


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post 11 Oct 2007, 14:31
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Aloooooooo.....baieti !!!
acolo (SITE) scrie foarte clar ca motorul corespunde normei de poluare EURO 4 si nu EURO 3 - daca scria EURO 3 nu mai deschideam acest topic wacko.gif




11 Oct 2007, 14:33:
poate ne ajuta hellcat...???

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post 11 Oct 2007, 14:37
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post 12 Oct 2007, 19:20
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Mai nou, Clio III vine echipat cu motorul de 70 cp.


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post 14 Oct 2007, 17:18
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@diesel_power, daca tu zici ca EGR e comandat de un motor si nu de clasica electrovana, intreb si eu: oare s-or fi eliminat problemele care apareau la EGR (infundat) sau nu?


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post 14 Oct 2007, 17:26
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No idea smile.gif
Banuiesc ca nu mai exista vane care sa se infunde, deci probabil s-a ameliorat situatia.


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post 19 Oct 2007, 11:07
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http://www.renault.ro/vn/symbol_f2/p51.html

Pe site-ul Renault nici macar nu mai apare varianta de 70 cp (68 de fapt).


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post 19 Oct 2007, 13:00
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da...si eu am vazut si sunt f.curios...
curios pentru ca am un symbol de 70 cp (68 de fapt) si vreau sa stiu de ce s-a renuntat la motorul de 68...sunt probleme sau ce ?
sa stiu si eu la ce ma astept de la viata biggrin.gif
poate sa rraspunda cineva in tema ?
pls

P.S. am vazut si preturile pt. symbolul de 85 cp...11500 cu reducere de 1100 euro..Mi se pare un picut cam mult..pentru ca am vazut tabla si lonjeroanele si restul de la symbol...sunt atat de subtiri si...in fine, nu conteaza
Dar motorul de 85 cp mi se pare super fain pentru symbol...chiar ar fi o masina excelenta pt. clasa ei.

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post 19 Oct 2007, 13:44
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Probleme nu cred ca sunt, pentru ca motorul este acum prezent pe Clio 3. Cred ca mai degraba este o problema de marketing. Poate ne ajuta Hellcat. smile.gif.


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