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post 17 Sep 2007, 21:49
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Am tot citit pe forum, am si cautat topicuri, dar tot nu mi-e clara o problema. Pana la urma, este vreo problema daca scot cardul din cititor dupa ce am pornit motorul si apelez pentru oprire la metoda cu 2 apasari pe buton, sau nu pateste nimeni nimic?


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post 17 Sep 2007, 21:50
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post 17 Sep 2007, 21:51
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problema ii foarte clara in manual si de asemenea pe forum, din cate am citit eu...


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post 17 Sep 2007, 21:51
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Singura problema ar fi sa ti se opreasca motorul in vreo intersectie si tu sa te apuci de cautat cardul prin buzunare. laugh.gif


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post 18 Sep 2007, 05:56
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Asta am experimentat deja, bineinteles fara sa vreau smile.gif Spre marea mea surprindere, a pornit fara card.


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post 18 Sep 2007, 06:51
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Masina este luata din RO sau adusa de afara? Te intreb pentru ca fara card cred ca pornesc numai alea care au "maini libere", iar la noi DIN PACATE nu s-a vandut asa ceva... Si daca ai aceasta optiune nu mai trebuie sa mai bagi cardul in cititor deloc tongue.gif


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post 18 Sep 2007, 08:31
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E luata din RO. Cred ca alta e explicatia, de fapt. Ca sa opresti motorul fara card in cititor trebuie sa apesi de 2 ori pe butonul de Start/Stop, probabil ca sa se convinga ca nu e o greseala. Asa, omorand motorul, nu i-am dat confirmarea ca am vrut sa opresc motorul, prin urmare apasand inca o data a pornit la loc.


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post 18 Sep 2007, 09:08
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Eu patesc o chestie tare ciudata: cam o data la o luna, in ultimul timp cand apas pe buton sa opresc motorul, nu se intampla nimic. Ma chinui, apas de 1000 de ori, tin apasat lung etc. si abia intr-un final se opreste. Sentimentul e f. ciudat sa te uiti la masina si sa nu poti sa-i opresti motorul. Ultima data mi-a luat ~ 10 min. s-o opresc. Am incercat si sa-i scot cardul si sa apas conform manualului, insa daca scot cardul apare pe bord card not detected si tot degeaba apas butonul. De aici trag concluzia ca nu-i din card (de altfel la fel face cu abele carduri), cred ca e de la buton. Ciudat e ca la pornire nu a facut niciodata probleme. Multe surprize la masina asta... A mai patit cineva chestia asta? Stie cineva cum e butonul asta pe dinauntru, cum sunt contactele?


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post 18 Sep 2007, 09:38
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Data viitoare sa-l calezi. Nu are nimic.


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post 18 Sep 2007, 10:56
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Totusi ceva nu e in regula acolo, daca zici ca la pornire ti-o ia din prima nu cred ca e contactul de vina, sa nu fie vreo problema de soft, mai bine te duci cu ea in service sa puna aia testerul pe ea.

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post 18 Sep 2007, 11:17
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Da, o sa merg la revizia de 60k in curand si vad atunci. Ma gandesc ca o avea butonul in spate 2 contacte (pornire si oprire)? Mi-a dat impresia ca ultima data s-a oprit cand am apasat pe marginea de jos de butonului.
Nici nu va imaginati ce senzatie tampita ai cand te rotesti pe langa masina si te intrebi cum naiba s-o opresti mad.gif

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post 18 Sep 2007, 11:23
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Nu cred ca sunt 2 contacte separate pentru pornit/oprit, dar din cate am vazut eu in butonul acela vin 3 fire parca. Poti sa scoti daca vrei sertarasul ala de sub cd-player si sa scoti butonul sa te uiti la el sa vezi daca are ceva, desi la cum descri problema nu cred acesta este cauza.


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post 18 Sep 2007, 13:38
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Multumesc pentru sfat. Totusi, pentru ca mai am f. putin pana la revizie, o sa astept. Sper sa nu mai faca probleme pana atunci.

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post 18 Sep 2007, 14:43
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Inca o chestie. Am inteles eu bine ca exista o protectie care te impiedica sa opresti din greseala motorul in timpul mersului (cu cardul bagat in cititor)?

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post 18 Sep 2007, 15:27
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Daca apesi din greseala blink.gif butonul de Start/Stop in timpul mersului nu se opreste motorul, dar daca insisti biggrin.gif o sa ai o surpriza wink.gif .


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post 18 Sep 2007, 15:34
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smile.gif Prefer sa nu gresesc, in cazul asta...


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post 18 Sep 2007, 15:36
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La mine se opreste daca apas pe buton in timpul mersului.


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post 18 Sep 2007, 15:40
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Daca apesi o singura data se opreste? blink.gif


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post 18 Sep 2007, 17:22
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Da. Daca e cardul bagat in cititor se opreste.


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post 18 Sep 2007, 19:39
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Eu stiu ca trebuie sa apesi de mai multe ori ca sa se opreasca motorul in mers, nu doar o singura data blink.gif .


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post 18 Sep 2007, 20:28
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nu stiu cat se opreste...eu am uitat piciorul pe acceleratie si apasam de zor butonul de Stop si blink.gif nimik,ma speriam ca nu se opreste si dupa ce am luat piciorul de pe pedala....si am mai apasat odata s-a oprit


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post 18 Sep 2007, 21:01
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Acum vreo patru ani in loc de masina din semnatura am avut un nissan patrol generatie mai veche caruia nu i se inchidea motorul sus nici o form, cand ajungeam undeva o bagam in viteza cu frana calcata si nu avea nimik.

inteleg eu ca megan-ul nu este tocmai nissan patrol dar in caz de nevoie decat sa astepti in parcare pana vrea butonul ala sa mearga blink.gif

nu stiu daca zic bine, dar nu cred ca se stica ataata timp cat nu faci treaba asta prea des

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post 18 Sep 2007, 21:48
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Undeva trebuie sa aiba ceva circuit logic care sa-i spuna sa ignore apaseara butonului daca ai acceleratia apasata sau daca masina e in miscare. Altfel al fi dezastru.


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post 19 Sep 2007, 09:12
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@ antifizic2: intr-adevar, super simpla solutia ta, nu mi-a trecut prin cap! In situatie de criza se poate aplica!


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post 19 Sep 2007, 09:16
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Solutia asta ti-a zis-o si Ssilviu in postul #9. wink.gif


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post 19 Sep 2007, 15:42
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La mine motorul nu se opreste daca masina are mai mult de 10Km/h. Este viteza la care se inchid usile si incepe sa piue si avertizorul sonor de lipsa centura siguranta!


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E posibil sa aveti dreptate. Eu cand am apasat pe buton aveam vreo 30-35Km/h dar nu acceleram de loc. Masina mergea din inertie.


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post 19 Sep 2007, 20:29
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QUOTE(VPP @ 19 Sep 2007, 15:42)
La mine motorul nu se opreste daca masina are mai mult de 10Km/h. Este viteza la care se inchid usile si incepe sa piue si avertizorul sonor de lipsa centura siguranta!
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ciudat,eu cand am ridicat masina tipul care mi-a predat-o si prezentat-o in acelasi timp mi-a zis ca dupa ce ajung la viteza de 10km/h se incuie automat...uite ca nu este asa si al mien avertizorul pt centura nepusa piuie dupa ce depasesc 30km/h mad.gif


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post 19 Sep 2007, 21:00
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Daca nu se incuie automat, inseamna ca sistemul C.A.R, e dezactivat. Ca sa il activezi, apesi cand masina stationeaza pe butonul de incuiat usile si tii apasat cateva secunde pana se aude un piu sau o avertizare, nu mai stiu.


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post 19 Sep 2007, 21:03
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Asa e, trebuie tinut butonul de inchidere a usilor pana auzi un beep - cam 5 secunde, cred.


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