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Cine stie locatia senzorului de semnal rpm?, - la motor 1,9 DCi

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post 17 Jun 2008, 16:12
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Cine stie locatia senzorului de semnal rpm la motor 1,9 DCi? atasez si o poza cu piesa in cauza... pentru a evita polemici si posturi inutile: nu ia semnal nici de la alternator, nici de la volant, nici de pe injector... banuiala mea e ca de pe ax cu came sau de la un piston dat fiind ca piesa pare ceva electromagnetic... poate cineva stie sigur locatia ei si doreste sa impartaseasca aceasta cunostinta...


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post 17 Jun 2008, 17:13
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Zi-mi seria sasiului si codul motorului.


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post 17 Jun 2008, 17:23
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- ai PM, sa fie vorba de capteur pmh point mort haute et vitesse moteur? teoretic... din ce scrie in manual, ala ar putea fi captorul de turatie... banuiesc ca masoara de cate ori se apropie pistonu de el si traduce in viteza motorului, problema e ca eu am doar denumirea in germana a piesei din poza care e tachosignal sensor... astept cu interes un verdict de la tine R19/16v, multumesc...


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post 17 Jun 2008, 17:31
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Nu seamana cu ce vrei tu, dar este.

Din poza imi pare ca masoara rotatiile axei cu came.

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post 17 Jun 2008, 17:34
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- daca imi spui si pozitia... sa fie 1 ?

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post 17 Jun 2008, 17:37
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1 este denumit captor viteza
12 este denumit captor punct mort

1 ar trebui sa se vada cand ajungi la axa cu came, din poza imi pare ca este deasupra pistonului 4.
12 nu stiu, pe marginea cutiei, aparent...


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post 17 Jun 2008, 17:39
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- stiu ca fortez dar... ai cumva in materialul tau si o schema a firelor de la 1? banui ca are cel putin 2 fire din care unul masa... asta daca nu isi ia masa direct de pe motor... am nevoie sa iau semnalul inainte sa ajunga sa fie transformat in CAN, probabil inainte de a intra in calculator...

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post 17 Jun 2008, 17:40
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Nu, din pacate nu am...

Asta e tot ce iti pot oferi despre senzorul respectiv.

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post 17 Jun 2008, 17:43
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- multumesc mult de tot... maine am sa vad ce si cum...


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post 17 Jun 2008, 17:45
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post 17 Jun 2008, 18:28
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- poza 1 pozitia 3 este acelasi cu pozitia 1 din schema ta? si poza 2 pozitia 7 vazut din spate de deasupra turbinei?

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post 17 Jun 2008, 18:33
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Asa imi pare si mie.

17 Jun 2008, 19:33:
Ciudat totusi ca e in afara motorului. Din schema din dialogys parea ca este chiar intre ultimile 2 lagare ale axei cu came.

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post 17 Jun 2008, 19:25
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R19/16v : motorul ala (m9r) nu e 1.9dci, e 2.0dci. El vrea pt 1.9(F9Q)

In fine, n-am niciun manual la indemana, ca sunt la munca, normal ar trebui sa fie 2 senzori.

Unul la axa cu came care citeste timpii de injectie si unul la volanta(arborele cotit) , pentru punctul mort. Acum nu stiu care dintre ei e folosit la citirea turatiei, normal ar fi ca cel de la axa cu came. (pozitia 3 din poza)

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post 17 Jun 2008, 19:29
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Manualul respectiv este cel la care m-a indrumat dialogys, dar stiu ca de multe ori greseste.

In schimb poza este in mod sigur pentru motorul lui.


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post 20 Jun 2008, 14:45
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Am gasit asta pe Wikipedia referitor la semnalul de tacho:

....while on others (and nearly all diesel engines, which have no ignition system) engine speed is determined by the frequency from the alternator tachometer output.

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post 20 Jun 2008, 19:30
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alternatorul de la laguna 2 are o fulie, care este pe post de regulator de turatie... s-a mai discutat...deci n-ai cum sa-i numeri rpm prin alternator


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