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roskatu
post 5 May 2008, 22:49
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masina : symbol 1.5 dci 70 E4
simptome : la turatie mai mica de 3000 de ture nu trage .. Apas acceleratia la fund si degeaba , urca f greu in ture ... Se simte ca si cum ar avea un turbo lag imens , undeva in jur de 2 sec sad.gif
Se intampla de cateva saptamani , in mod aleatoriu , destul de rar ... Ce ar putea fi ?
Masina are un an si 37 kkm si toate reviziile la zi ....


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post 5 May 2008, 23:15
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Ai simtome de EGR infundat...

Este topic dedicat...citeste acolo si te vei documenta mai bine..

Conduci subturat cumva?


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post 5 May 2008, 23:42
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Niciodata subturat , poate doar cand trec din 1a in a 2a dar oricum sarcina e mica si acceleratia f putin apasata ... In schimb masina a fost f alergata... biggrin.gif
Oricum nu'mi vine sa cred ca la atat de putini km ar avea probleme cu turbina .. Daca mai face probleme ma duc cu ea la service biggrin.gif Ca oricum e in garantie tongue.gif


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post 5 May 2008, 23:44
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Pai cu asta trebuia sa incepi...mai ales ca este in garantie... nu este turbina...poate EGR infundat...du-te si revun-o cu verdictul celor de la service...spor


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post 6 May 2008, 00:03
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E posibil sa i se traga de la remapare. Pe-asta ai "uitat" s-o mentionezi.


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post 6 May 2008, 00:09
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biggrin.gif Intradevar , masina a fost remapata timp de 11 kkm tongue.gif Totusi nu cred ca remaparea e de vina .. Au trecut 8 kkm de cand i'am pus softul original la loc... Probabil si remaparea a mai imbatranit'o putin , dar totusi biggrin.gif


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post 6 May 2008, 01:09
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Turbina de pe clio tau e simpla. Deci n-are vane care sa se blocheze.

Motor mic combinat cu chip care mareste doar cantitatea de motorina. Rezultatul e motorina nearsa (fum negru) . In cazul tau EGR imbaxit.


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post 6 May 2008, 06:40
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mai mult ca sigur turbina nu e. daca te lasa turbina nu iti urca mai sus de 2000 de ture decat ff greu si tot timpul nu cand si cand.


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post 6 May 2008, 11:41
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@andu911 , sa fie EGR ? In afara schimb numai la 4000 de ture , conditii in care EGR'ul se curata din cate stiam eu ...
Si inca ceva , daca un chip iti mareste numai cantitatea de motorina , mototul nu cred ca ar mai functiona corect.. wink.gif


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post 6 May 2008, 13:00
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Motorul ala nu are harta de presiune turbo. wink.gif


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post 6 May 2008, 13:24
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Posibil sa fie cum zici tu , insa nu cred... tongue.gif Niste argumente... Ceva scris , cineva sa confirme ?


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post 6 May 2008, 14:19
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Mai nene de ce nu ai ionceput cu partea cu remapatul si cu faptul ca dupa aceea nu ti-a mai mers calumea...trebuia sa fi cinstit si sa spui asa de la inceput...

Daca se prind aia din service ca s-a umblat la soft...adio garantie...


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post 6 May 2008, 14:55
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eu zic ca stiu ce este....am patit-o si eu acum juma de an cu masina aproape noua, nu tregea deloc, dar cateodata isi revendea, era in garantie a mea, am fost la service si am plecat cu ea facuta, mi-a pus-o la test pe calculator si apoi unul din teste a aparut cu rosu si ala a zis este pista unu!! nu stiu ce inseamna aia doar ca a dat cu un spray pentru curatarea unui contact la nivelul pedalelor si am plecat imediat cu ea facuta....asta a fost tot.,.....contact oxidat sau miscat la nivelul pedalelor

6 May 2008, 14:57:
apropo.....mi se pare mi sau acest 1.5 DCI nu are turbina deloc.?? nu trebuia sa fie TDCI sau TCDI pentru a avea turbina si a fi turbo? si nu trebuia sa aiba mai multi cai putere daca era cu turbina?? zic si eu.....

6 May 2008, 15:04:
inca una?? ce inseamna remaparea aia???

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post 6 May 2008, 15:08
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DCI fara turbina nu cred sa existe...la un motoras asa de mic este aproape imposibil sa scoti mai mult de 40cp fara turbina...asa ca e musai sa fie si o turbina...

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post 6 May 2008, 15:08
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ba da trebuia sa fie TDICDTITCDIDDITTDCCIITI wink.gif


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post 6 May 2008, 15:33
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@cj98czh masina a mers dupa remapare 8kkm fara probleme tongue.gif


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post 6 May 2008, 21:26
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... o conducta de aer crapata la intrare sau iesire in/din turbo...cea de cauciuc e mai probabil sa fi crapat de la vibratii ... daca ai si garantie, nu mai astepta si mergi peste ei .... taci.gif


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post 6 May 2008, 22:51
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Si sa nu uiti sa ne dai verdictul.


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post 7 May 2008, 06:56
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in concluzie cine ma lamureste si pe mine daca DCI are turbina sau nu?? sau trebuia sa fie TDCi


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post 7 May 2008, 07:07
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Stai linistit. Are. Sigur. Am vazut-o io. Cand opresti masina nu auzi cumva ceva care are turatie mare si scade ceva asa ca la avion? aia e turbina.( Eu am ascultat 15 ani turbinele alea de avion.) Nu o vezi din cauza capacului ala mare de plastic. E intre motor si podul pedalier, dar pe partea pasagerului.

Aia cu pista unu e reostatul de la pedala de acceleratie, care are doua piste.Acceleratia e electronica.

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post 7 May 2008, 07:10
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Frate, e plin forumul de topicuri despre turbina de la DCI. Pune si tu mana si da-i un search inainte de a pune astfel de intrebari. Sau si mai bine uita-te in spatele capacului de la motor si o sa vezi dita-i turbina, mama ei de turbina care e turbo compresor de altfel.


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post 7 May 2008, 08:05
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QUOTE(moboem @ 7 May 2008, 07:56)
in concluzie cine ma lamureste si pe mine daca DCI are turbina sau nu?? sau trebuia sa fie TDCi
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Pune mana si citeste si tu putin...toate motoarele Renault dCi sau dTi sunt turbo...

si ca sa te lamuresc putin.... dCi - este motorul turbodiesel cu injectie commonrail, dTi este turbodieselul clasic..

TDCI - este turbodieselul cu injectie commonrail de la Ford, TDDI este omologul de la Ford al dTi-ului...

In rest google....

Sau vorba unui coleg mai sus ar trebui sa fie....TDICDTITCDIDDITTDCCIITI radmasa.gif radmasa.gif radmasa.gif


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post 7 May 2008, 09:29
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Sau vorba unui coleg mai sus ar trebui sa fie....TDICDTITCDIDDITTDCCIITI

asta mi s-a parut si mie tare =))


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post 7 May 2008, 10:44
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QUOTE(roskatu @ 6 May 2008, 13:24)
Posibil sa fie cum zici tu , insa nu cred... tongue.gif Niste argumente... Ceva scris , cineva sa confirme ?
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Chiar te rog sa nu ma crezi. wink.gif

Fraier eu ca imi pierd vremea.

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post 7 May 2008, 10:45
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No' gata ... aici se opreste off-topicul va rog.


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post 22 May 2008, 17:40
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Am reusit sa duc masina la service si pe tester a dat o eroare la admisia de aer ... Am lasat'o la ei sa faca mai multe teste si astept sa vad verdictul final , peste vreo saptamana biggrin.gif

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post 22 May 2008, 21:37
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si mie imi urca greu in ture .... dar dupa ce am curatit injectoarele e super ok ...


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post 22 May 2008, 22:18
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debitmetru de aer


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Off-topic....

Si eu vroiam sa-mi fac remapare la a mea dupa 10 kkm...dar cred ca stau cuminte...

Cei care sunt in masura...va rog sa ma ajute...e bine pt motor sau NU..?
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Nu, nu este bine pentru motor.

Abtine-te de la offtopic pe viitor, te rog!


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