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SorinV
post 31 Mar 2004, 22:35
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sunt in campania de evaluare a consumului ! am inceput prin a merge potolit adika schimbat pana in 3000 de obicei si mai rar peste ! primele trepte le schimb si in 2000 -2500 da nu mai putin ! se pare ca in oras si numai in oras a scos 8.2 % care e cu un litru mai putin decat declara reno !
zic eu ca e corect ca din calcule precedente, cand o conduc normal spre forja nasoala scoate spre zece ! voi ati masurat ceva ?


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diesel-ul e pentru turatii mai mici... si am tinut-o pana acu' la 2000 rpm pana intr-a IV-a si...la trecerea spre a V a 2500... so, am tinut-o asa cum scrie la rodaj.
consum? super... cam 6% in oras vara...6.5-6.7% iarna... iar in afara... 4-4.3%... deci super bine (in afara fiind dusa pana la max 140 km/ora).
dupa ce am facut o tura cu un tip de la service, masina fiind turata la peste 3000 rpm (plangeam nu alta)... ala-mi spune ca scoate fum negru mai ceva ca Mégane-ul vechi... deci, am condus-o SUBTURATA...si risc sa-i f*t nu stiu ce senzor-spanac... si ala-i scump foc.
recomandarea tipului a fost s-o tin turata (cam pe la 3000) ...mie mi se pare mult...motorul urla la asa turatii... iar consumul de duce-n ma-sa... adio 6% in orash...cred c-o sa ajunga pe la 8% cu putin noroc.
asa ca... aia in cartea tehnica nu zic nimic de turatie (exceptand rodajul).
scoateti de la cunoscuti informatii si hai sa le punem cap la cap... poate ca intelegem si noi...cum e corect?
nu ti-am raspuns, dar am atins subiectul.... poate sunt altii mai informati.
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post 1 Apr 2004, 14:19
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Mereu aud faza asta cu subturatia...Eu cred ca e o gaselnitza aiurea...Bine nici sa mergi cu ea sa-ti trepideze.....Dar eu , de ex, la 45 schimb a IV-a si la 60 a V-a . Asta insdeamna ca e subturata???? Unii zic da, altii nu...Vorbesc de benzina, de diesel nu stiu..


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post 1 Apr 2004, 14:39
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Raducu tata, zi-mi ca glumesti. Cum drak schimbi la 45/h a 4-a? Nu ti-e bine? Pai cred ca e ultra subturata masina. La clio, regimul normal de schimbare a vitezelor e la 2500-3000rot/min. Asta inseamna: 40/h-vit 3, 60/h - vit 4, peste 80/h - vit 5.


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post 1 Apr 2004, 14:43
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Pe bune ca asa schimb....la 3000 mi se pare EXAGERAT de mult ...de altfel cam pe la 2300-2400 schimb...


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post 1 Apr 2004, 14:45
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subturat inseamna sa mergi intr'o anumita treapta de viteza sub turatzia de cuplu maxim. asta teoretic..
desigur k shi io merg intr'a IV-a la 60 (2000rpm), motorul e super silent in conditziile astea, dar asta inseamna sa mergi fara sa accelerezi.. sau...incepi sa accelerezi ushor..
la mine mai merge, fiind turbo, fiindca turbina aplatizeaza cumva curba de cuplu (teoretic maxim 181Nm la 2500 la mine) shi trage ok de la 2000, iar de la 3000 pleaca de sub mine..
dar la un motor aspirat cu cuplul de 127Nm la 3750rpm e al dreaq de subturat in a cincea la 60 (cred k eshti undeva in jur de 1500rpm)
Daca vrei sa accelerezi asteptzi, shi ashteptzi... (tzinand pedala apasata mai tare, ca sa compensezi cumva lipsa de cuplu la turatzia aia de diesel la care tzii tu un benzinar de 16V...) :arrow: creshte consumul...
cam asta e filozofia.
TIP: Clio 1.4 16V turatia optima de mers prin orash e pe la 2500-3000rpm.


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post 1 Apr 2004, 14:48
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aha!
acuma am vazut ca tu ai 8V..
pai tu ai turatia de cuplu maxim la 4200 shi ceva... e EXTREM de subturata saraca...


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post 1 Apr 2004, 14:53
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ok, am sa iau nota...desi mie imi place mai batraneste...


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post 1 Apr 2004, 15:00
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shi biggrin.gif apropo de faze cu flash'uri shi claxoane, citeshte un post al meu mai veki..

http://www.autoshow.ro/forum/viewthread.ph...page=1#pid91481

Nota: tot o p**da proasta tzine volanu' de la clio..


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post 1 Apr 2004, 15:02
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Cum se cheama topicul?


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post 1 Apr 2004, 15:02
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aa, gata sunt cretin..


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post 1 Apr 2004, 15:02
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vezi k am modificat, am pus shi linkul...
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post 1 Apr 2004, 15:03
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nu merge...


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post 1 Apr 2004, 15:04
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Domnilor posesori de 16V-uri ... bagati picioru'-n pedala tata ca le stricati. Astea sunt motoare de turatie, asa ca tratati-le ca atare. Eu merg cu ea scimbind la 3500 in mod normal, si-mi consuma 9.1-9.2 in oras (consumul dat de constructor este de 8.8). Daca vreti sa va tina motoru' ... si sa traga, turati-le cum trebuie ...


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post 1 Apr 2004, 15:07
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roadrunner, nu era vorba de 16V in propozitzia lui radu, nu am fost eu atent.
oricum, avem amandoi dreptate, totushi!
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post 1 Apr 2004, 16:00
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Pentru diesel-uri, cat e turatia optima domnilor?
le stiti pe astea cu benzina.... bun bun bun....da' cine ma ajuta si pe mine?????
so, CARE-i TURATIA OPTIMA PENTRU un dCi...de 65 cp.... hai, help me!
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post 1 Apr 2004, 16:12
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acolo unde ai cuplul maxim!
raspuns: 2000rpm


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post 1 Apr 2004, 17:08
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...cu toate ca 2000 rpm este TURATIA OPTIMA...cei de la service spun ca la 2000 e subturata!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sunt nebuni? stiu ei ceva? sau ne vand gogosi?


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post 2 Apr 2004, 08:59
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interesanta problema cu turatia.
Hai sa va zic ce inseamna la mototrul meu (1.5 dCI - 80CP) 2500tr/min:
- tr1: vreo 20km/h (n-am urmarit exact)
- tr2: vreo 40km/h
- tr3: vreo 60km/h
Pai ca sa merg cu ea "turata", desi la 2500 nu e cine stie ce, ar insemna in oras sa merg maxim cu a 3-a.
Dar care ar fi explicatia ca e recomandat sa se mearga mai turat? Ce riscuri apar in regim de "subturat"?
La diesel cum s-ar calcula pragul de la care poti spune ca nu mai esti subturat?


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Pina la urma cam care este consumul obtinut de voi, posesori de 1.4 16v (Symbol) iarna?
Mie mi-a luat cam 11% exclusiv urban.


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post 14 Feb 2006, 23:00
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Si inca o problema, cam la ce turatii schimbati voi vitezele la 1.4 16v? Intre 3000-3500? E OK?


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Mie la service la Serus mi-au recomandat, si nu o data(de vreo 4 ori, cand m-am dus ca avea fie pb cu pornirea, fie cu faptul ca nu se infigea cum trebuie in anumite trepte), si mi-au resetat nu stiu ce de pe volanta, sa merg numai peste 3500 cu ea. Consuma probabil undeva la 10(9.8-9.9)%, dar cel putin nu mai am probleme cu ea. Daca au mai fost si altii in aceasta situatie, pls reply.


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post 15 Feb 2006, 17:44
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Si mie tot 11% imi consuma in oras,dar merg numai prin centru - bara la bara biggrin.gif
De 2 luni de cand o am numai consumul asta il are!
Sper ca la vara sa fie mai mic!
Vitezele le schimb pana in 3500 ture.(cand prind zone libere pe strada)

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In ultimele 2 luni am mers strict servici - acasa (Giulesti - Dr. Taberei), ocazional facultate si am calculat un consum de ~10-11


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Salut oameni buni!
Eu am masina din noiembrie 2005, iar pana acum am vreo 3300 km "la bord"... Cand am ajuns in preajma a 3000 km, i-am calculat consumul cat m-am priceput yo mai bine: aceeasi pompa, la 100 km rulaj strict urban, benzina "turnata" pana in gatul rezervorului (a se intelege k efectiv baltea in acesta). Rezultatul?... 8 - 8,2 %... si nu doar o singura data, ci de 3 ori, pe acelasi traseu! Skimb treptele intre 2500 - 3000 rpm, mai mult spre 3000, insa, deseori, o turez si pana pe la 4500! Ca stil de condus... sunt mai "agresiv" dry.gif in trafic, iar orasul in care locuiesc e Pitesti.


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consum urban berceni-victoriei(poate o sa-mi trebuiasca BU-vinieta biggrin.gif) 9.9% - stil de condus:avem si perioade cand schimb in 5500-6000 rot/min dar pana se incalzeste masina (adica 2 liniute la temp)nu depasesc 2000rot


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Cum schimbi in 6000rpm ca sa se incalzeasca motorul? blink.gif
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A zis omu' ca pana se incalzeste motorul schimba in 2000. Dupa aceea se duce in 6. smile.gif

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Abia am trecut de 3.000 km cca 3.300. La inceput imi consuma cam 10. Acum mi-a ajuns la un consum 7,4 in oras mers si cu frana de motor, dar si turata. Orasul este Constanta si mare majoritate a km sunt facuti seara aglomeratia mai putina. smile.gif

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Stati linistiti consumul o sa fie ca la carte cam dupa 7-8mii km, cel putin asa afost la mine(am avut Clio 1,4 16v din 2000-2002) nu aveam comp. de bord dar i-ti dai seama si fara cu aproximatie.Oricum strsnic motor si acum pling dupa el si vreau sa va felicit pe toti cei care au facut aceasta alegere.


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