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Ca ideie puteti sa spuneti si ce marca de brate ati folosit? Eu am schimbat prin vara bratele TRW, am vreo 20000 de km si parca are o tendinta la accelerare sa o ia intr-o parte. Dar deocamdata mai vad ce se intampla. This post has been edited by iuly75: 12 Jan 2020, 11:16

Ca ideie puteti sa spuneti si ce marca de brate ati folosit? Eu am schimbat prin vara bratele TRW, am vreo 20000 de km si parca are o tendinta la accelerare sa o ia intr-o parte. Dar deocamdata mai vad ce se intampla.

This post has been edited by iuly75: 12 Jan 2020, 11:16

Si eu cu TRW tot asa am patit, cam in 10000 km erau varza, am incercat si cu metzger si dupa 1000 km a cedat bucsa din partea din spate a basculei. Acum am zis sa incerc sa iau bucsi de poliuretan, teoretic trebuie sa fie mai bune.

eu am pus Delphi si am mai bine de 25000 ,după o revizie vizuala par sa fie bune

Chiar daca e vorba de Megane 4 GT am si eu urmatoare problema:

Masina trage dreapta, cu cat merg mai tare, cu atat se simte mai puternic. De la roti nu este, face la fel si cu setul de vara si cu setul de iarna. Geometria este in parametri. Nu se aud zgomote suspecte de la roti. Oare sa fie tot de la brat?

Braţ, arc sau flanşă amortizor.

Multumesc. Sa vedem daca o sa-si dea seama dealerul.

Uzura sau elasticitatea excesiva la bucsile bratelor se mainfesta, in special, la accelerare sau franare, prin modificarea directiei. In curbe, la viteza constanta, se manifesta prin instabilitate.
La viteza constanta, pe drum drept, nu apar manifestari.

Ok
Eu sunt plecat momentan ...ma ocup dupa ce vin
Cam ce brate recomandati
Ce sunt cele originale?

Are cineva idee daca exista o ordine anume de strangere a suruburilor de la punte si bascule dupa schimbare? Deoarece am inteles de la cineva care cica a auzit de la un mecanic cum ca exista o ordine si daca nu le strangi corect risti sa se rupa repede bucsile. Eu am gasit ceva in dialogys. Am atasat si procedura din dialogys de demontare si remontare a puntii fata.

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Smecheria este sa strangi bucsile cu masina pe sol, sau cu portfuzeta (sau puntea spate) aproximativ in pozitia normala a masinii.
Multi mecanici sunt lenesi si le strang direct pe elevator, fara sa ridice portfuzeta si normal ca iti crapa bucsile imediat.

La laguna 3 bucsile stau vertical, nu au pozitie de strangere.

Sal

Am gasit pe aplicatia autodoc un set de brate.
Primul e master sport 584 lei include 2 brate +2 cap bara+ 2bielete
Doi e mapco cu 813 lei include 2 brate +2 cap bara+2 bielete+2 inca ceva

Ce recomandati?
Sau alte nume
Originalele ce marca sunt?

Brate TRW schimbate in august anul trecut, aproximativ 20000 de km , vinovat bucsa stanga din fata, schimbat ambele bucsi, sa vedem ce urmeaza, sincer 3 mecanici au condus masina si sau speriat de modul de comportament al directiei, urmeaza sa fac si geometria.

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Am facut si eu prostia sa schimb bucsile originale cu sasic parca.
Cele originale erau usor crapate dar nu tragea in nici o directie.

Au mers bine 15.000 km, acum trage drepata.

Se pare ca unica varianta este sa luam brate oem.

sau niste bucsi de calitate ...

Sal
Am rezolvat partial problema cu trasul intr o parte la accelerare.
Am cumparat brate complete mastersport...ceva nemtesc cica si am plecat la mecanic sa le schimb.
Surpriza a fost cand am ajuns acolo si a ridicat o pe elevator.
Arcul fata dreapta rupt in doua.Cumparat repede 2 arcuri second cu culorile galben albastru si montate pe amortizoare care erau foarte bune.
S a diminuat trasul intr o parte cu 70% dar tot trage.

Ps nu am schimbat bratele inca.

Cum mama naibi nu mi am dat seama ca e un arc rupt .era rupt in doua si era si ruginit acolo unde era rupt.
La rotire volan nu se auzea nici un zgomot iar masina nu statea intr o parte.
Arcul rupt avea culori galben verde si desi am luat arcuri de la o lag 3 2.0dci de 150 cp ele erau mai lungi si mai subtiri.
Imi spune si mie cineva ce culori aveti la arcuri..sau pe ce masina sunt galben verde..desi tind sa cred ca sunt de pe laguna coupe.

Acum dupa inlocuirea arcului ar trebuii reglata directia.

si mie imi tragea dreapta la accelerari puternice.am schimbat basculele cu totul si degeaba.aveam presiunea mica in cauciucuri,2.2 in loc de 2.6
dupa ce am facut presiunea la 2.6 nu am mai avut probleme.

salut
pt ca nu am gasit pe niciunde postez aici seria mea vin poate ma ajuta cineva sa imi dea mai multe detalii despre leguma mea .....
ce model ,,ce dotari,,
seria VF1KTD40642391561

INTREB PT CA ARE TOATW TRASATURILE DE LAGUNA GT DAR IN CARTE E MOTOR DE 2,0 DCI DE 96 KW
La care fostul proprietar mi a spus ca masina are remap stage 1

aici gasesti toate optiunile pe care le are masina ta: https://carinfo.kiev.ua/cars/vin/renault/vi...su=wcem4u03j6pg

si da are 96kw si e GT pt ca are 4WS

Este gt line....de obicei varianta gt vine cu 180cp si jante 18...cel putin asa am eu

seria   VF1KTD40642391561

nu este GT .. parerea mea ... dar are 4Control .. fabricata in luna 11 2009, E5 cu FAP, jante pe 17"

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This post has been edited by cj98czh: 3 Jul 2020, 11:36