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post 12 May 2009, 12:25
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Tu ai alt sistem si mai mult ca sigur ai ip fix la iesire. La cristi se va face pe sistem PPoE (user si pass).
"Ce faceam eu care am schimbat vre-o 5 placi de paza la PC?" Pai ce sa faci, clonai mac-ul de pe prima placa...


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post 12 May 2009, 14:08
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Am si eu Clicknet. Merge ok, singurul dezavantaj este ca nu beneficiezi de vasta retea metropolitana a RDS-ului, unde transferul de date se face cu mare viteza. Daca esti utilizator obisnuit e ok. Eu am abonament cu telefonie+internet si merge foarte bine.
Setarea routerului se face relativ ok, poti oricum suna la numarul 930 si ai pe cineva care te piloteaza pentru instalare.

User si parola sunt de obicei de forma:
user : numeleprenumele_XX unde XX reprezinta judetul
pass:123456

!!! cere modem ethernet si nu cu USB! Cele pe USB sunt f. slabe.

Daca optezi pentru abonamentul cel mai ieftin, asa cum spune si RaduNG vei avea IP dinamic , adica la o reconectare/restart, probabil ca modemul tau va primi o alta adresa IP de la serverul de DHCP de la RTC. Acest lucru nu iti afecteaza cu nimic calculatorul tau, el va avea o adresa interna care va fi transparenta pentru tine si care va fi alocata de modem.

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post 12 May 2009, 14:18
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Doar la abonamentele de 6mb ip=ul este fix. La restul abonamentelor in caz ca vrei un ip fix trebuie sa platesti pe luna o suma fixa in afara de abonament (2 euro parca).


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post 12 May 2009, 14:34
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Corect cu amendamentul ca nici la 6Mb nu e IP fix.
Orice abonament sub 8Mb + 2 euro = IP fix

@cristib: ar trebuica ca la incheierea contractului sa te intrebe daca vrei casuta de mail si spatiu website. Sunt gratuite si daca mai ai nevoie de o adresa de mail sau de spatiu pentru pagina ta internet le poti cere.

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post 12 May 2009, 14:50
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6Mb nu 6E biggrin.gif
Abonamentul de 6Mb e 14euroi


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post 12 May 2009, 16:32
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radmasa.gif radmasa.gif radmasa.gif
Am gresit!!! Vrabia ""malai" viseaza!
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post 12 May 2009, 16:48
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Pai si tot e ceva in neregula biggrin.gif
Am RTC 6Mb cu ip fix acasa biggrin.gif


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post 12 May 2009, 20:05
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QUOTE(the_tavi @ 12 May 2009, 14:08)
!!! cere modem ethernet si nu cu USB! Cele pe USB sunt f. slabe
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ce inseamna slabe? afecteaza cu ceva viteza?

netul va fi folosit de ai batrani ai mei, pentru citit un ziar, verificat un mail si intrat pe mess. atat. fara dc, fara upload, fara download...etc. nu se pricep la d-astea.


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post 12 May 2009, 20:40
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QUOTE(RaduNG @ 12 May 2009, 17:48)
Pai si tot e ceva in neregula biggrin.gif
Am RTC 6Mb cu ip fix acasa biggrin.gif
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atunci ai noroc, eu am avut de la inceput 1mb cu ip fix iar pana la 4mg inclusiv s-a pastrat ipul fix, acum am 6 si nema ip fix.


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post 12 May 2009, 22:12
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@cristib: modemul pe USB este instabil si apar conectari si deconectari aiurea. Am studiat si eu inainte sa imi fac abonamentul. In plus, sfatul unei persoane de incredere care lucreaza la tehnic in RTC a fost :"evita modemul USB!". Si am evitat. Solutia mea pentru acasa este: modem ethernet (in configuratie bridge) + router wireless WRT54GL. Pentru parintii tai e ok un router ethernet de la care sa te infigi pe LAN cu cablul in PC.

Modemul ethernet e gratuit la abonament pentru 2 ani.

@alex0507: ai dreptate, acum lucrurile stau cam asa pe site-ul RTC:
(Nu-urile sunt pentru IP fix) - RaduNG - ai pile... tongue.gif

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Mai jos gasesti prezentate comparativ toate abonamentele de Internet de la Romtelecom Clicknet:
Abonament Internet ADSL Viteza download Viteza upload Spatiu casuta e-mail Spatiu website IP static Tarif (Euro/luna)
Tarif (Euro/luna cu TVA)

Clicknet 2 Mbps 2084 kbps 512 kbps > 7 GB
Clicknet E-mail powered by Google Apps 30 MB Nu* 8 9,52

Clicknet 4 Mbps 4096 kbps 512 kbps > 7 GB
Clicknet E-mail powered by Google Apps 30 MB Nu* 9,5 11,30

Clicknet 6 Mbps 6144 kbps 512 kbps > 7 GB
Clicknet E-mail powered by Google Apps 30 MB Nu* 12,5 14,87

Clicknet 8 Mbps 8192 kbps 768 kbps > 7 GB
Clicknet E-mail powered by Google Apps 100 MB Da 16 19,04

Clicknet 20 Mbps 20480 kbps 1024 kbps 250 MB ** 50 MB** Da 39, 46,41
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post 13 May 2009, 19:59
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deci nu inteleg ceva. ma scoate din sarite.
in partitia C, de 21 gb am asa :
8,715 gb windozu vista
2,392 gb program files
1,227 gb users
2,99 gb fierul de hibernate
2,45 gb liberi

. unde dracu is ceilalti gb.

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post 13 May 2009, 20:01
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pai... in fisierele ascunse din radacina cred ca ar mai fi ceva.. de obicei pe undeva pe la 2 gb. (Show hidden files / system files)
Apropo, partitie de 100gb inseamna undeva la 97gb reali smile.gif) E treaba aia cu biti si bytes wink.gif

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post 13 May 2009, 20:12
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da ,stiu, da tot nu ies la socoteala.

si tre sa fie un fiser care se mareste. ca se tot mareste, aveam 6 gb liberi zilele trecute si n-am mai instalat nimic. nici updateuri.


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post 13 May 2009, 20:18
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te duci la disk cleanup si vezi cum iti reapar gigabytii biggrin.gif


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post 13 May 2009, 20:20
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daca era asta solutie, nu mai intrebam pe forum wink.gif


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post 13 May 2009, 20:26
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ok, scuze. Cata memorie ai setata la virtual memory?


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post 13 May 2009, 21:45
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@caktuss: un programel free care te poate ajuta sa intelegi cum si cu ce este ocupat hard-disk-ul tau este WinDirStat.

Explicatii la program
http://windirstat.info/
Download:
http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading...use_mirror=garr

Cred ca ai probleme cu System Restore:

Sfaturi pentru problema ta de pe forumurile Vista:

http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/07/04/v...ducing-anomaly/

And/or free up disk space:

1. Some temporary files and log files can be huge. Run Disk Cleanup in
Windows Orb (Start) > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools.
2. If you don't use Hibernation you can save yourself up to a gigabyte of
hard drive space by turning it off. In a Run window, type powercfg.exe -h off
(note the two spaces) and press Enter. To turn it back on type powercfg.exe
-h on and press Enter.
3. Reduce the amount of space used by system restore. To reduce the amount
of space, open an elevated command prompt by clicking the Windows Orb (Start)
> All Programs > Accessories and right-click Command Prompt, then ‘Run as
Administrator’. To display the current parameters type (or copy and paste)
“vssadmin list shadowstorage� (not the quotes but the spaces) and press
Enter. To reduce (or increase) the disk space allocated, type (or copy and
paste) “vssadmin resize shadowstorage /on=c: /for=c: /maxsize=3GB� (not the
quotes but the spaces) and press Enter. This example assumes changing the
space on drive C to 3GB. You may find that all the restore points have been
removed after resizing so make sure the computer is behaving itself before
reducing the space allocation. Also, make a manual restore point immediately
after resizing.
4. Reduce the space used by the Recycle Bin. Right-click the Bin >
Properties > Custom Size and amend as necessary.

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QUOTE(RaduNG @ 12 May 2009, 17:48)
Pai si tot e ceva in neregula biggrin.gif
Am RTC 6Mb cu ip fix acasa biggrin.gif
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* In momentul instalarii, serviciile Clicknet 2, 4 si 6 Mbps nu functioneaza peste un IP static. La cerere, acesta se poate obtine contra unei taxe de 2 Euro lunar (tarif fara TVA).
Sursa:
http://www.romtelecom.ro/personal/internet/abonamente-adsl/

Pe vremuri, pana sa se faca maririle de banda exista ip static inclus la 6 Mb, poate ai acea promotie.
Totodata, a fost o perioada cand s-a oferit ip static gratuit pe viata daca cereai optiunea. Stiu ca am vrut eu sa cer pentru nepotul meu, dar cand l-am pus sa sune expirase promotia de 2 zile plange.gif


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post 13 May 2009, 22:12
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Am vazut ca sunt ceva nelamuriri la ce e un bit si ce e un Byte, si de unde vine diferenta intre ce scrie pe cutia hard-diskului si cat avem disponibil in realitate:

1 Byte = 1 octet = 8 biti

Notare:
bit=b
byte=B

Ex:
viteza 2mbps de la furnizorul de cablu poate fi exprimata prin divizare cu 8 si ca 256KBps

Se da: un HDD nou de 60Gigabytes:

Matematic:
1G=1 000M, 1M=1000K, 1K=1000 bytes
rezulta
1G=1000*1000*1000 bytes
1G=1 000 000 000 bytes

In informatica (prin formatarea Hard-ului se ajunge in situatia de mai jos):
1G=1 024M, 1M=1 024K, 1K=1024 bytes
rezulta
1G=1024*1024*1024 bytes
1G=1 073 741 824

Facand o scadere intre cele doua valori de mai sus (1G info-1G matem), rezulta o pierdere de aprox. 74 de mega la fiecare giga dupa formatare

60*74M=4440M=~4,5GBytes lispa la apel din cei 60 de Giga ai producatorului dupa formatare, adicahard-diskul va avea disponibil pentru stocare vreo 55GBytes.



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partial am gasit ce se intampla

aveam un film tras pe c, in users/downloads. l-am sters.

am system restore activat, de asta scade spatiul brusc la intervale de timp. isi face asta un restore point, jap un gb...

am un pagefile de 3 gb (tot 3 gb de ram am). ce fac cu el, il sterg, il fac de 1 gb sau il las asa ?


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caktuse, în primul rând, trebuie să mărești partiția cu windowsul

21 de gb e cam puțin, mai ales că zici că mai tragi și una-alta


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Intr-al doilea lasa-l pe win sa gestioneze pagefileul - selecteaza System managed size, click pe Set si Ok.


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deci, de ieri am net de la romtelecom smile.gif

mersei la posta, facui cerere. s-a aprobat pe loc. mi-au dat pachetul cu modem (modem cu usb si cu ethernet) si toate cele necesare instalarii: cabluri, spliter, cartulie.
in 10 minute am tras cablurile, am pus spliterul, modemul si gata treaba.
apoi se urmeaza pasii din cartulie: se introduce IP-ul din manual, subnet mask, default gateway, DNS-ul, usernameul, parola...bla bla bla.
apoi evident ca n-a mers. am sunat la numarul din cartulie unde alaturi de-o donsoara foarte politicoasa am luat de la cap procesul de instalare. totul era ok, mai putin IP-ul, subnet mask, dns....etc. in cartulie erau aiurea trecute. a zis si ea ca-n carte is gresite, mi-a dat alt IP si totu' s-a rezolvat.
netu merge ok. pe speedtest.net mi-a dat viteza de dowload intre 1,7 si 2 MB. iar upload ~ 500 kb. suficient ptr mail si alte chestii d-astea banale.



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QUOTE(cristib @ 14 May 2009, 09:38)
netu merge ok. pe speedtest.net mi-a dat viteza de dowload intre 1,7 si 2 MB.
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1,7 - 2 Mb sau MB? (megabiti sau megabytes)? smile.gif Daca sunt megabytes, suna tentant!


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Mbps.


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QUOTE(clr @ 13 May 2009, 21:53)
* In momentul instalarii, serviciile Clicknet 2, 4 si 6 Mbps nu functioneaza peste un IP static. La cerere, acesta se poate obtine contra unei taxe de 2 Euro lunar (tarif fara TVA).
Sursa:
http://www.romtelecom.ro/personal/internet/abonamente-adsl/

Pe vremuri, pana sa se faca maririle de banda exista ip static inclus la 6 Mb, poate ai acea promotie.
Totodata, a fost o perioada cand s-a oferit ip static gratuit pe viata daca cereai optiunea. Stiu ca am vrut eu sa cer pentru nepotul meu, dar cand l-am pus sa sune expirase promotia de 2 zile  plange.gif
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Da... Tot ce se poate. Avand in vedere ca eu am oferta asta de 2 ani parca nu mi-a trecut prin cap ca baietii au taiat aceasta optiune din standard.

QUOTE(Duyu @ 14 May 2009, 08:47)
1,7 - 2 Mb sau MB? (megabiti sau megabytes)?  smile.gif  Daca sunt megabytes, suna tentant!
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Nu o sa ai tu norocul asta smile.gif Pentru MB vorbesti doar cu retelele de cartier si RDS (FiberLink)


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Sunt in situatia de a ma muta. Si la noua locatie, trebuie sa imi pun internet. In momenul de fata stiu sigur ca in zona este upc. Ce stiti de netul de la ei? Eu vreau sa iau ala de 24mbps. Mai are cineva? Se misca binisor?


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Am un prieten care e multumit. Dupa cum spuneam mai sus, la UPC nu beneficiezi de reteaua metropolitana a RDS-ului unde transferul se face cu viteze foarte bune. Daca nu te deranjeaza treaba asta, in rest nu ai nici o problema la UPC


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Eu am de aprox doi ani pachetul"Medium" de la UPC.Dupa parerea mea de necunoscator merge ok.Eu ma dau pe net de pe un desktop destul de batran iar sotia foloseste un laptop HP de generatie mult mai noua.Ea "primeste" net prin intermediul unui router wireless Siemens.Noi suntem multumiti de serviciile celor de la UPC.
Pretul pachetului "medium" este de 75 ron(daca nu facem "aditionale" la telefon!)


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