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post 9 Feb 2017, 18:17
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QUOTE(icsfails @ 8 Feb 2017, 11:02)
80-90% in oras, drumuri scurte si la ore de varf. Numai bine, intre timp s-a duc viteza medie la 17.2 km/h si consumul la 11.3
In alta dezordine de idei, tocmai ce m-a anuntat ca nu prea mai am lichid de parbriz biggrin.gif
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Talisman 1.6 consuma 11-12%? Ma asteptam sa mai eficientizeze motoarele.

Deci eu sunt ok cu 3.2 diesel cu 12.5-14% in oras.


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post 9 Feb 2017, 18:48
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QUOTE(Mutzunache @ 9 Feb 2017, 19:17)
Talisman 1.6 consuma 11-12%? Ma asteptam sa mai eficientizeze motoarele.

Deci eu sunt ok cu 3.2 diesel cu 12.5-14% in oras.
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post 9 Feb 2017, 18:51
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Masinile alea de lux nu au pornirea motorului de la distanta ci doar a lu' webasto.


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post 9 Feb 2017, 19:10
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QUOTE(dantes @ 9 Feb 2017, 18:51)
Masinile alea de lux nu au pornirea motorului de la distanta ci doar a lu' webasto.
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Si vara pe 40 grade tot Webasto pornesti ???


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QUOTE(Mutzunache @ 9 Feb 2017, 18:17)
Talisman 1.6 consuma 11-12%? Ma asteptam sa mai eficientizeze motoarele.
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Gresit ,..... Talisman de 200 cai consuma 11-12% , ceea ce este bine , sa vezi la Subaru 235 cai cat consuma benzina .



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Si nu numai limuzinele au pornire din telecomanda

1.Remote Start is standard in the top-of-the-line 2016 Ford Focus Titanium,
2.Remote Vehicle Start is standard in the 2016 Buick LaCrosse at all trim levels (Base, Sport Touring,
3.Remote start system is optional across the 2016 Dodge Challenger
4.Remote Engine Starter is available for the 2016 Subaru Impreza
5.The 2016 Hyundai Sonata have Remote Starting in vehicles equipped with push-button start
6.A key-fob Remote Start System is “included and only available” in 2016 Chevrolet Camaro
7.The 2016 Camry’s optional Remote Engine Starter
8.Remote Engine Start is available in the 2016 Ford Mustang via Ford’s Remote Access System


Si nu au Webasto ( care polueaza la fel de mult cat un motor diesel/benzina la relanti )

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post 9 Feb 2017, 21:47
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Cel de 200 consuma 11-12 in trafic urban?

Al tau de 160 cum se descurca in oras?



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post 9 Feb 2017, 22:25
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Dap, ăl de 200, benzină, consumă atât. La tractorină nu cunosc smile.gif


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post 9 Feb 2017, 22:35
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Sa te vad eu cum folosesti remote start in EUROPA... in Austria de ex e ilegal si daca nu ma insel si in de. De webasto electric banuiesc ca nu are sens sa discut. Iar exemplele tale nu sunt valabile pe optiunile de europa. Sau poate ma insel, dar in cele cu apa calda permanenta nu ai voie sa le folosesti.
Eu vorbeam de porniri la rece care dauneaza motorului. Tu faci ce vrei.
Si personal nu sunt impotriva remote startului, dar maaaaxim 5 min la diesel.


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post 9 Feb 2017, 22:38
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QUOTE(stefandinescu70 @ 9 Feb 2017, 17:12)
POLUARE cica si consum inutil , dar confortul meu bate tot .Masina este a mea si eu stau in ea , si cat stau in ea vreau cald iarna sau rece vara . Uzura pica din socotelile mele deoarece daca ies din curte si o turez pe stomacu gol ( adica rece fiind ) este aceasi (sau chiar mai mare ) uzura/frecare pe care o are decat daca funtioneaza fara incarcare in internele motorului la rece in relanti.


Pentru ca Romania. Daca ai locui in Germania, Austria, tari civilizate... ar fi altfel smile.gif

Si apropo, uzura motorului e mai mare daca merge la ralanti rece, decat daca mergi cu ea fara sa o fortezi. Nu e parerea mea, ci e recomandarea oficiala a oricarui producator.

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post 10 Feb 2017, 04:15
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QUOTE(Mutzunache @ 9 Feb 2017, 21:47)
Cel de 200 consuma 11-12 in trafic urban?

Al tau de 160 cum se descurca in oras?
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oras 8.3 % ( include si rontait la relanti in curte ZILNIC ca sa se incalzeasca cam 10 min zilnic dimineata ) , sosea 6-6.5 % ( max 160km/ora ) acum dupa 5000 km rulati , nu stiu mai incolo , desi nu cred ca va mai scadea .

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post 10 Feb 2017, 20:27
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Am inteles ca benzinarul TCE are cutia de tip ambreiaj uscat ,iar DCI pe umed.Este adevarat ca la cutia de pe TCE nu e necesara schimbarea uleiului ca si la o automata conventionala ?Sunt foarte foarte tentat de achizitia unui TCE, intrucat am doar doar drumuri scurte prin oras!

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QUOTE(cal @ 10 Feb 2017, 20:27)
Am inteles ca benzinarul TCE are cutia de tip ambreiaj uscat ,iar DCI pe umed.Este adevarat ca la cutia de pe TCE nu e necesara schimbarea uleiului ca si la o automata conventionala ?Sunt foarte foarte tentat de achizitia unui TCE, intrucat am doar doar drumuri scurte prin oras!
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Tot ce este TCE si DCI acum ( incepand cu 2016 ) are doar cutiile cu ambreiaje umede 7DCT300 ( TCE) si 6DCT450 ( DCI ) Getrag ( la care schimbi uleiul SPECIAL blink.gif si filtrul de ulei intre 60 000 km si 90 000 km ) Talisman la 90 000km

Doar 1.5 DCI 110 si 1.4 TCE 130 a folosit cutia cu ambreiaje uscate 6DCT250 Getrag ( cuplu mic max 250nm ) , dar nu mai este disponibila acum se pare . Doar aceasta era fara intretinere , doar schimbai setul de doua discuri (si atat ) dupa un rulaj de circa 100 000 - 150 000km ( depinde de talpa si cat oras ) .

Diferenta este ca cea cu uscat cam bruscheaza la schimbari ( permanent adica) in timp ce cea cu umede este SOFT la schimbari ( doar pe modul SPORT , unde exista , schimba mai brutal). Le am in curte pe amandoua modele de cutii EDC ( pe diesel puse) ( M3 DCI si Talisman DCI ) si am facut diferenta . Pentru TCE iti vor raspunde cei cu TCE

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Am facut drive test cu Talismanul dealerului local, un benzinar 1.6 TCE.Eram curios care cutie este pe masina !Din ce inteleg eu Talismanul fiind aparut in 2016 are ambele cutii atat ptr TCE cat si DCI pe ambreiaj umed ,deci cu schimb de ulei la intervale prestabilite!Masina are aprox 9000 km si face 6 luni acum in februarie!Mergea frumos!Au fost momente cand am simtit schimbarea treptelor dar nu smucea!

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QUOTE(cal @ 11 Feb 2017, 08:32)
Am facut drive test cu Talismanul dealerului local, un benzinar 1.6 TCE.Eram curios  care cutie este pe masina !Din ce inteleg eu Talismanul fiind aparut in 2016 are ambele cutii atat ptr TCE cat si DCI pe ambreiaj umed ,deci cu schimb de ulei la intervale prestabilite!Masina are aprox 9000 km si face 6 luni acum in februarie!Mergea frumos!Au fost momente cand am simtit schimbarea treptelor dar nu smucea!
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De ce nu ar merge FRUMOS , doar este noua . Ce mai astepti ???? smile.gif Glumeam sau poate nu .


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Exista Talisman cu ambreiaj uscat pe piata?M-ar tenta sa cumpar chiar si masina de drive test la un pret bun!Serios acum!

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QUOTE(cal @ 11 Feb 2017, 09:43)
Exista Talisman cu ambreiaj uscat pe piata?M-ar tenta sa cumpar chiar si masina de drive test la un pret bun!Serios acum!
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NU EXISTA asa CEVA ( nici Megane 4 sau new Scenic sau Espace ) . Dar care este problema , vrei automata dar nu vrei intretinere ??? Nu se prea poate acum . Iei masina de noua , o folosesti 100 000 Km si apoi o vinzi si asa nu ai intretinere la cutia automata radmasa.gif . ( si pierzi mai mult de 50/60% din bani , stiu stiu , .... asta ar spune gurile rele ) . Dupa tine ..... , nu te mai intereseaza intretinerea si treci la alta noua .


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Nu este o problema intretinerea!Vroiam sa ma asigur ca nu e cu ambreiaj uscat ptr ca la dealer nu am reusit sa ma edific!Mi-au ridicat niste semne de intrebare discutiile de pe forum vizavi de cutia de pe TCE,ptr ca sunt foarte pornit sa il cumpar si vroiam si parerea cuiva de pe forum!Chiar vreau sa o cumpar saptamana viitoare!

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QUOTE(cal @ 11 Feb 2017, 11:32)
Mi-au ridicat niste semne de intrebare discutiile de pe forum vizavi de cutia de pe TCE,ptr ca sunt foarte pornit sa il cumpar si vroiam si parerea cuiva de pe forum!Chiar vreau sa o cumpar saptamana viitoare!
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Informatii mai multe afli despre cutia EDC de pe Talisman TCE ( aceasi si pe Megane 4 GT TCE 205 ) aici ...
https://www.reno.ro/index.php?showtopic=299684&st=120

( sau poate ai si citit deja ) si iti faci parere singur despre EDC pe Talisman TCE si Megane 4 TCE .

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........Vroiam sa ma asigur ca nu e cu ambreiaj uscat ...............
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De ce nu vrei cu ambreiaje uscate ???

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Din cauza discutiilor de pe forum!😁
Dar inclin sa cred ca nu sunt probleme la Talisman!


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QUOTE(cal @ 11 Feb 2017, 13:01)
Din cauza discutiilor de pe forum!😁
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Poate ai inteles tu gresit , dar , NU AU FOST PROBLEME cu EDC cu ambreiaje uscate ci numai cu cele umede


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QUOTE(cal @ 10 Feb 2017, 20:27)
Este adevarat ca la cutia de pe TCE nu e necesara schimbarea uleiului ca si la o automata conventionala?
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Dar la aia "conventionala" unde scrie ca se schimba? Ca Renault zice ca uleiul e pe viata (13 ani si 300.000 km).


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Se pare ca am inteles eu gresit intr-adevar!Totusi se pare ca problemele ar fi doar la megane 4!Tind sa cred ca aceste cutii ptr TCE au valoarea max de cuplu (300Nm) prea apropiata de valoarea de 280-260 Nm a motorului TCE.Eu sper ,totusi ,sa nu am probleme pe viitor cu benzinara wub.gif wub.gif , pentru ca m-am decis sa o cumpar!😀

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La EDC ul meu "" conventional diesel "" scrie ca se schimba . Atasat



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Se pare ca am inteles eu gresit intr-adevar!Totusi se pare ca problemele ar fi doar la megane 4!Tind sa cred ca aceste cutii ptr TCE au valoarea max de cuplu (300Nm) prea apropiata de valoarea de 280-260 Nm a motorului TCE.Eu sper totusi sa nu am probleme pe viitor pentru ca m-am decis sa o cumpar!😀
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Sa o stapanesti sanatos de pe acum si multi Km .

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Multumesc!Sa fie intr-un ceas bun!😃


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E un coleg de aici cu Talisman GT care se interesa acum ceva vreme de probleme la EDC pe un site strain (dar la sectiunea Megane IV). Nu stiu daca preventiv sau avea chiar el vreuna. Oricum, ai garantie.


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Talisman GT? ph34r.gif Probabil Megane!Stiu de Talisman Estate GT ,dar nu se comercializeaza la noi!

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TCe 200 EDC7. GT wannabe tongue.gif.


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😀Asa este! cool.gif


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scutul de sub motor este metalic sau plastic ?


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Plastic , Nici nu ma interesa din metal .

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care ar fi avantajele scutului din plastic ? am vazut ca se gasesc de cumparat scuturi de metal


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