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Noul Megane IV, pe care il vom vedea la Frankfurt pe 15 septembrie

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post 10 Sep 2015, 08:52
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QUOTE(pishky @ 10 Sep 2015, 06:37)
pe sfantul pasa 2.0 BiTdi (care sare de 50.000 di ieuro si e in continuare pasat) dezvolta 240 cai frumosi, si undeva la 500 NM
Pe skoda superb (banuiesc ca e si pe pasat) 2.0 TSI - pana la 280 de cai frumosi.
Deci se poante
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Si cat costa?

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post 10 Sep 2015, 09:25
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Nu numai motorul aduce masina la pretul ala... Si sunt destule meganeuri cu 2.0TCe vandute.


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post 10 Sep 2015, 09:28
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Avand in vedere ca M IV va fi vandut la nivel global, cu siguranta ca existe piete enorm de mari care asteapta motoare puternice si carora li se va oferi ceea ce cer.
daca tot exista cercetarea si dezvoltarea acestor variante mai potente, de ce sa nu poata fi vandute si la noi?


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post 10 Sep 2015, 09:36
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Daca va exista in europa, se vor putea cumpara si de la noi, reprezentantele pot comanda si versiuni/echipari din Franta sa spunem.

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post 10 Sep 2015, 09:55
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QUOTE(centurion @ 10 Sep 2015, 08:52)
Si cat costa?

Renault ar vinde la acel pret?
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pasatu sare de 50.000 - si e taram de c si E class acolo.
skoda , in echiarea de varf se apropie de 40.000 (si in spate ai un mic teren de fotbal - de pe bancheta pana la scaunul soferului, spatiul pentru genunchi este absolut imens, chiar si pentru persoane de aproape 2m.)

La suma asta reno ar vinde cam la fel de bine ca Velsatis, latitude, citroen C6 etc.
Totusi segmentul megane / focus / astra / golf / mazda 3 / volvo v40 etc este cel mai disputat si cel mai cumparat in acelasi timp, deci daca vrei sa existi pe piata tre sa existi mai ales aici (si reno exista, cu motoare mici ce-i drept, pt ca alea se vand in mare parte, dar e placut sa ai si ceva exotic in gama).


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post 10 Sep 2015, 10:33
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O fi placut sa ai si ceva 'mare' in oferta, dar daca nu renteaza, mai bine nu. Din pacate pentru o mica parte dintre clienti.
Pentru 'exotic', exista gama RS.



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post 10 Sep 2015, 11:22
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QUOTE(pishky @ 10 Sep 2015, 09:55)
Totusi segmentul megane / focus / astra / golf / mazda 3 / volvo v40  etc este cel mai disputat si cel mai cumparat in acelasi timp
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Unde?
Ca-n europa cel mai vandut este clio/fiesta/polo/ etc.


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post 10 Sep 2015, 12:28
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Se referea, pe buna dreptate ca cea mai vanduta clasa este cea Compacta.
Iar aici o da bine cu Golfu, unde mult si bine o sa fie top1 in Europa. Megane, Astra si alte astea...mai au de asteptat.


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post 10 Sep 2015, 13:07
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Nu e adevarat. Clasa mica are cel mai mare volum de vanzari. Vezi aici:
http://left-lane.com/european-sales-2015-f...ompact-segment/
http://left-lane.com/european-sales-2015-f...ompact-segment/
1,2 milioane versus 1,4 milioane.


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post 15 Sep 2015, 11:45
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Cica motoarele sunt: benzina - 115, 130 și 165 CP; diesel - 95, 110, 130 și 160 CP,

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/renault-meg...ck-6048997.html


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post 15 Sep 2015, 14:44
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De pe forumul planeta:
en essence : TCE100 (BVM), TCE 130 (BVM + EDC7), TCE 205 (EDC7)
en mazout : DCI 90, DCI 110 (BVM + EDC6), DCI 130 (BVM), DCI 165 (EDC6, lancée en 2016)
Renault annonce l'arrivée d'une version Hybrid Assist en 2017 ...


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post 15 Sep 2015, 15:07
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Primele impresii de la fata locului:

http://www.promotor.ro/masini-noi/news/ren...-video-14713346

Ce zic aia de la planeta face sens...


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post 15 Sep 2015, 15:37
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Vad ca producatorii francezi (Renault si Peugeot) s-au apropiat de linia germana de design. Ma uitam astazi la un Peugeot 308 si parca vedeam un Volkswagen.


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post 15 Sep 2015, 17:11
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QUOTE(andri1940 @ 7 Sep 2015, 00:27)
Masina arata bine, dar are un design destul de agresiv. Nu se pupa deloc cu motoarele mici, pe care le cumpara majoritatea pe Renault.
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cam cat de mic crezi ca e motorul pe un Renault Sport GT ??? caci despre el vorbim nu ???


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post 15 Sep 2015, 18:09
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QUOTE(partner @ 15 Sep 2015, 15:37)
Vad ca producatorii francezi (Renault si Peugeot) s-au apropiat de linia germana de design. Ma uitam astazi la un Peugeot 308 si parca vedeam un Volkswagen.
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post 15 Sep 2015, 18:20
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Se plangea lumea pe forum ca motoarele sunt mici.
Iata un TCe200. Sa vedem cati de pe forum vor cumpara acest motor.
Inteleg ca este Megane GT. Megane RS se va apropia oare de 300CP?

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post 15 Sep 2015, 18:43
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Actualul RS are 275 cai, eu zic ca M4 RS o sa fie un pic peste 300


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post 15 Sep 2015, 18:59
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QUOTE(centurion @ 15 Sep 2015, 18:20)
Se plangea lumea pe forum ca motoarele sunt mici.
Iata un TCe200. Sa vedem cati de forum vor cumpara acest motor.
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Niciunul. Din acelasi motiv din care nu au cumparat nici TCe180/190 sau TCe220 pe MIII.

Cand au trecut de la m2rs la m3rs au sarit de la 230 la 250 de cai.
Momentan sunt la 273 de cai, nu-i exclus sa vedem peste 300 de cai de la prima strigare.
Se pare ca lucreaza la un motor de 1.8T ce va aparea in diferite declinari si pe Alpine si pe Pulsar Nismo. Partea cu rs-ul hibrid e doar un zvon, ar fi misto sa aiba macar un kers adevarat, dar nu stiu daca e posibil dpdv cost + greutate. Cert e ca vom avea 4control.

Hai ca maine aflam mai multe despre varianta civila + GT si o sa avem ce comenta.


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QUOTE(partner @ 15 Sep 2015, 15:37)
Ma uitam astazi la un Peugeot 308 si parca vedeam un Volkswagen.
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Eu l-am vazut ca seamna cu Audi A3.


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A broad range of engines, stretching to 205 horsepower
Available from launch under the bonnet of the new Mégane GT will be the Energy TCe 205 petrol engine, mated
to seven-speed EDC dual clutch automatic transmission. The Diesel Energy dCi 165 engine, linked to six-speed
EDC dual clutch automatic transmission, will complete the GT line-up in the course of 2016.
The core of the range will feature the Energy dCi 110 Diesel engine, combined with a six-speed manual
gearbox. This version emits just 86g of CO2 per kilometre (3.3 litres/100km) and is ECO2-listed. Since June
30, 2015, Renault has been using the ECO2 label to highlight the most economical engine in each model range.
The launch engine line-up is rounded out by the following units:
• Diesel: Energy dCi 90, Energy dCi 110 mated to six-speed EDC dual clutch automatic transmission and Energy
dCi 130.
• Petrol: Energy TCe 100; Energy TCe 130 and Energy TCe 130 with seven-speed EDC dual clutch automatic
transmission.
A ‘Hybrid Assist’ Diesel will be added early in 2017. With a targeted NEDC cycle figure below the 3
litres/100km threshold and CO2 emissions of 76g/km2 , this power unit will position the new Mégane as the
market leader in terms of low fuel consumption and CO2 emissions. The system achieves this by capturing
energy under deceleration and braking, and then boosting acceleration under certain conditions, especially at
low engine speeds, to combine driving pleasure with extreme economy.


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QUOTE(centurion @ 15 Sep 2015, 17:20)
Se plangea lumea pe forum ca motoarele sunt mici.
Iata un TCe200. Sa vedem cati de forum vor cumpara acest motor.
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Pe mine ma intereseaza cati nemtzalai cumpara Renault sa am de unde alege urmatoarea SHK9.

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aprob pozitiv,
tce de 205 pare apetisant (vedem daca e vechiul doiturbo, sau 1.6 de pe clio)


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post 16 Sep 2015, 07:25
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Daca te uiti pe renault.ro, vezi ca si Megane 4 va avea 4 Control. Ramine de vazut care versiune si la ce pret.


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2.0T e istorie, combinatia de 1.6T + EDC7 e aceeasi de pe Espace si Talisman.
Ca performante brute e evident ca GT205 nu va putea livra cat a facut-o GT220 de pe m3, dar nu cred ca e o problema.
4 Control pe GT si RS, ceea ce inseamna ca trebuie sa astepti minim 2 ani pana lanseaza noul RS.


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QUOTE(IRONICK @ 16 Sep 2015, 00:06)
In primul rand sa vedem cati cumpara un Renault.
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Nu vad de ce nu s-ar cumpara Megane 4. Arata bine, motorizarile par echilibrate, Megane 3 consider ca este fiabila si corecta la pret (deci Megane 4 nu ar avea vreun handicap de recuperat) ... nu stiu vreun motiv pentru care lumea sa nu cumpere Renault/Megane 4.
(Eu sunt mai curios de cum se va vinde Talisman, nu Megane 4, tinand cont de esecul Laguna 3/Latitude.)

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Daca te uiti pe renault.ro, vezi ca si Megane 4 va avea 4 Control.
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4 Control nu este ceva unic in clasa compacta? Daca da, atunci vine si Renault cu ceva ce poate iesi in evidenta in clasa asta. De la Megane 2 nu am mai vazut sa vina cu ceva nou/unic in clasa.
Sunt fraieri daca nu vor face publicitate pe chestia asta.


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sa ce, ca o foloseste in loc de suspensie independenta?


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Si este vreo problema daca fac asta?


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QUOTE(b76bgaarh @ 16 Sep 2015, 09:57)
sa ce, ca o foloseste in loc de suspensie independenta?
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Macar 4 control se simte si de un sofer obisnuit. Suspensia independenta canci.


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nu, da nici motiv de batut cu caramida in piept nu e.

sofer obisnuit, de gt 205 cp.

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