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andreicri
post 22 Sep 2004, 22:22
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Oameni buni azi am deschis si eu capota la meganeul meu sedan 1,9 dCi cu motoru pornit si m-a surpins ca vibra capacul lui ca toti dracii.Am apasat pe el si parea bine prins.E normal?Stiu ca e diesel,dar chiar asa?


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post 23 Sep 2004, 00:33
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Am observat ca motoarele diesel sunt un pic mai zgomotoase decat cele pe benzina. La cele de generatie noua diferenta e aproape nesesizabila.
Mi se pare ca vibrtiile apar mai ales cand motorul este rece.
Am vazut vibratiile astea usoare la relanti si la un 307 HDI 2.0 136 CP.


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post 23 Sep 2004, 07:59
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Orice diesel vibreaza.
Faptul ca la astea mai noi nu iti clantane dintii in gura (de fapt tot iti clantane, dar ceva mai putin decit la alea mai vechi) se datoreaza numai unor tampoane mai bune si nicidecum lipsei vibratiilor de la motor.


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post 23 Sep 2004, 09:38
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Inteleg,insa capacul ala vibra,scuzati expresia,cqa toti dracii!


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post 23 Sep 2004, 12:25
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pune una langa alta doua meganeuri diesel si vezi care cum vibreaza .. altfel nu stiu daca ai cum sa iti dai seama ..
oricum, mi se pare normal sa vibreze


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post 23 Sep 2004, 13:30
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Bine,m-am uitat la un Volvo s6o diesel si parac capacul motorului nu vibra asa.In interior era cam la fel.Mi-a sa nu fi pus mecanicii prost capacul!

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post 23 Sep 2004, 15:43
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..Mi-a sa nu fi pus mecanicii prost capacul!


nu are cum.
cel putin la mine la 1.5 dCi capacul e prins in 3 puncte: 2 stanga si 1 dreapta!
deci n-ai cum sa-l pui invers!


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post 23 Sep 2004, 16:24
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pAI SI CAND E MOTORUL PORNIT VIBREAZA ASA PUTERNIC?

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post 23 Sep 2004, 17:15
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de ce nu incerci sa scoti capacul si sa-l pui singur la loc?
nu e complicat deloc.
de vibrat si la mine vibreaza dupa cum vibreaza motoru. doar nu te asteptai ca virgula capacul sa atenueze din vibratii!?
rolul lui e mai mult de a proteja nu de a insonoriza!


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post 23 Sep 2004, 21:16
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Pai si motoru vibreaza asa mult?La Volvo parca era mai linistit,desi in habitaclu se simtea la fel!

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post 24 Sep 2004, 11:27
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si totusi .. parca volvo e alta mancare de peste ..
eu chiar nu mai stiu cum vibreaza capacul meu ... si, ti-am spus .. pune-o pe a ta langa un alt megane dci .. si vezi cum vibreaza
a, si capacul se scoate foarte usor, tragand de el


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post 24 Sep 2004, 12:14
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Pai si motoru vibreaza asa mult?La Volvo parca era mai linistit,desi in habitaclu se simtea la fel!


man, u got an obsession, ca in bancul acela..
orice diesel are trepidatii.. in cazul mashinilor mai noi, suportii motorului atenueaza mult mai bine aceste vibratzii..
sa fii fericit ca ai un diesel de reno, care e mult mai rafinat decat un diesel de VW sau de Fiat, de ex..

concluzie! nu e nici o problema ca vibreaza! poate la tine e vreun tampon foutut, insa.. singura solutzie e sa tragi mashina langa a lui claus, sau taurash shi sa compari..


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post 24 Sep 2004, 15:02
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Man nu ma obsedeaza.Intrebam si eu!Tampon foutout?E noua for Christ Sake!

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post 26 Sep 2004, 19:47
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p-asta cu "e noua" .. nu o poti folosi ca o scuza .. peste tot se fac greseli
nu mai stiu exact cine povestise ca era la reno in service, si tocmai "umblau" la un m2 2.0 benzina.. era un arc pus invers, sau ceva asemanator


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post 26 Sep 2004, 21:28
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E normal nu ai de ce sa iti faci griji smile.gif


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post 26 Sep 2004, 23:25
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Dap ...se pare ca se-ntimpla destul de des sa monteze arcurile de pe fata aiurea... Dany (CEO) a avut problema asta ... asa ca nu e nimic nou !


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post 28 Sep 2004, 19:14
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M-am uitat si eu la al meu(1,5dci) si vibreaza , dar din ce am mai vazut si la alte motoare diesel mi s-a parut ca vibreaza in limite normale, deci cred ca e normal sa vibreze.


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post 31 Oct 2004, 20:19
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Vibreaza, dar vibreaza dragalash... cel putin 1.5 dCi


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post 1 Nov 2004, 00:04
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hai strumfule ca e tare treaba asta cu dieselu rafinat ! poi stii cine e permiant la capitolul diesel nu ??
vag cu al sau V10 ! au cele mai tari mototare diesel produse vreodata , din toate punctele de vedere !
dieselurile reno sunt peste foarte multe motoare dar sunt sigur sub cele de la vag !

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post 16 Nov 2004, 15:21
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1.9 dci la mine nu vibreaza deloc,despre motorul cald vorbim.Toate dieselele actuale(common rail) sunt mai rafinate decat cele de la VAG(prea nervoase,incomfortabile)) daca stii ce vrea sa se spuna prin rafinament.Nu este vorba de prestatii.


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post 16 Nov 2004, 15:29
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"Deloc"? Nu prea cred. smile.gif
Nu s-a inventat inca diesel-ul ala.


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post 16 Nov 2004, 16:59
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pe cuvant? ei bine s-a inventat dar este mult prea costisitor sistemul de echilibrare si eliminare a vibratiilor pentru un turism; ia sa ne gandim unde? da, la vase, chiar am vazut un documentar cu motoare de yacht care nu vibreaza absolut de loc, numai ca sunt motoare in v cu 8 sau 10 cilindri


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post 16 Nov 2004, 17:17
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Da, stiu ca orice e posibil, dar vorbeam de L4. smile.gif
Un dCi cu 8 cilindri in V la 90 de grade (stil american) presupun ca ar putea fi facut aproape la fel de echilibrat ca un V8 pe benzina. (Dar zgomotul tot ar ramine smile.gif)


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post 17 Nov 2004, 10:56
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Sau, si mai bine, un V12, pentru ca ar fi perfect echilibrat fara sa mai aiba nevoie de contragreutati.


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post 17 Nov 2004, 12:17
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sa vedeti un 1.6 HDI cu 16v cum toarce. biggrin.gif


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post 17 Nov 2004, 13:14
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sa vedeti un 1.6 16v cum consuma...


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post 17 Nov 2004, 13:21
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eu am vazut un 2.0 hdi si intradevar torcea si consumul de5.5 nu mi sa parut mare. Ideea e ca nu vibra asa mult ca 1.5 al meu dar zgomotul interior era sesizabil mai mare.


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post 17 Nov 2004, 13:24
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Poate benzinar ca al meu diesel scoate 6.7 l / 100km in oras.


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post 17 Nov 2004, 13:29
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pai cum 1.6 hdi scoate 6.7 oras si cat in afara ?
Eu care ma pregatesc sa iau si eu unul , motorul de 2.0 hdi pe care l-am vazut eu manca 6 in oras si 5.5 in afar 136 cp.


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post 17 Nov 2004, 13:33
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Pai motor nou (inca in rodaj) si nu cred ca o sa scoata mai putin de 6.5l in oras.Totusi mai vreau sa merg si cu masina, adica sa trec si de 50Km/h.

Consum instant oras la 60km/h in treapta IV - 3.5 l / 100km


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