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Tipul de ulei folosit!, Dupa cati km este recomandat schimbul?

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post 8 Apr 2016, 17:04
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La mine cu 3,5l am 2-3 mm peste maxim pe joja.
Scuze,4,5l

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post 8 Apr 2016, 17:13
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pai si c.b cat arata nivelul? cate liniute?


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post 8 Apr 2016, 17:35
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Voi nu scoateti tot uleiu ????


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post 8 Apr 2016, 17:39
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Cb spune ca-i ok biggrin.gif
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post 8 Apr 2016, 17:45
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4,5 e perfect daca scoti tot uleiul.


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post 8 Apr 2016, 17:53
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cum adica sa scoti tot uleiul? pai ce faci il scot doar jumate? tongue.gif


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post 8 Apr 2016, 18:53
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aproximativ 150ml raman pe pereti.


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post 13 Apr 2016, 00:14
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Pai de la 150ml la 500ml e cale lunga nu? Repet, eu am scurs tot uleiul si a intrat fix 4L, nu 4.5L.


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post 13 Apr 2016, 07:14
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Posibile depuneri in baia de ulei....


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post 13 Apr 2016, 07:17
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QUOTE(mark`` @ 13 Apr 2016, 01:14)
Repet, eu am scurs tot uleiul si a intrat fix 4L, nu 4.5L.
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Da-mi voie sa iti spun ca ti-a ramas destul ulei prin motor smile.gif

Lasa ce arata CB-ul, joja de zice ca aia este sfanta .. CB-ul doar informativ.

Pe joja intre min. si max. este fix 1L, asta ca sa iti dai seama cat iti lipseste.

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post 13 Apr 2016, 16:56
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Hm, m-ati pus pe ganduri. O sa ma uit la joja, dar e tare greu accesibila.

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LE. Am fost jos la masina si nivelul de pe joja coincide cu ce e indicat pe bord, e langa nivelul superior. Zona unde e parcata masina e plana, a trecut 2 ore de cand am oprit motorul. Culoarea la ulei pe joja e inca una curata, uleiul nu s-a murdarit dupa ~1000km.
Ce sa zic, am un motor mai special.

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post 13 Apr 2016, 21:19
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E ceva normal(la 1.6 16v) ca uleiul sa fie ''curat'' dupa 1.000 de km, pe la 1.500-2.000km incepe sa capete culoare. La mine intra 4.3 maxim 4.4 litri. Depuneri ai doar daca uiti sa schimbi uleiul. Cand am schimbat baia de ulei era curat motorul si respectiv baia(revizii la 15.000 de km si in ultima vreme la 7.500km).


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post 13 Apr 2016, 22:01
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Si totusi cum iti explici ca imi intra doar 4L la schimb?


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post 13 Apr 2016, 23:14
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Eu de mult bag doar 4 l la schimb in K4M. Este normal sa iti mai ramana ulei in motor, nu cred ca sta nimeni 30 min sa se scurga cel vechi in totalitate.


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post 13 Apr 2016, 23:39
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Eu stau aprox. o ora sa se scurga. Timp in care schimb filtrul de aer, aspir si sterg carcasa filtrului, schimb filtrul de polen, aspir si acolo + ii mai fac o igienizare la fiecare 15.000km. Mai dau cu aspiratorul prin ea, sterg praful de pe bord.....etc.
Acum nu stiu de ce iti intra doar 4l......astia de la reno au mistere irefutabile smile.gif.
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Abia ce am facut test drive cu un M4 1.6 GT si ghici ce a mostenit de la batranul M2, un greieras smile.gif, mai timid, dar era acolo.

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post 14 Apr 2016, 06:56
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QUOTE(andri1940 @ 14 Apr 2016, 00:14)
nu cred ca sta nimeni 30 min sa se scurga cel vechi in totalitate.
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Atelierul unde imi rezolv eu masinile lasa masina "la scurs" si 2 ore ... dupa care iau o siringa din aia mare si trag din carcasa filtrului tot ce se poate ... se mai scoate si de acolo 2-300 ml .. depinde de masina si de cum este pozitionata ... asta daca vrei sa faci o treaba cum trebuie ..


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post 14 Apr 2016, 07:34
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Cu o apasare a butonului de pornire si inca o data scurt pe oprire dar fara a porni mai scoti ceva...


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post 14 Apr 2016, 11:27
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Dap..asta cu apasarea o stiam si eu....si daca uleiul este incins se curge mai bine!!


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QUOTE(budspencer07 @ 14 Apr 2016, 07:34)
Cu o apasare a butonului de pornire si inca o data scurt pe oprire dar fara a porni mai scoti ceva...
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Am inteles bine? Pornesti motorul si il opresti rapid cu uleiul scurs? Ca daca da, this is madness!


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post 15 Apr 2016, 16:39
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De ce ar fi? Ti se pare ca la fioecare pornire la rece a motorului instant ajunge uleiul peste tot. De unde. In prima secunda ulei din parti.


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4,5l Castrol edge 0w40. Merge ca uns...


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QUOTE(ssilviu @ 15 Apr 2016, 16:39)
De ce ar fi? Ti se pare ca la fioecare pornire la rece a motorului instant ajunge uleiul peste tot. De unde. In prima secunda ulei din parti.
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Exact!
Probabil ca d'asta se si consuma mai repede segmentii & camasile motoarelor Renault unse cu 10W40
decat cei din unele motoare Toyota care folosesc ulei subtire (10W20) si care la porniri reci ajunge mai
repede pe camasi (deci mai putine curse cu fier pe fier --> uzura mai mica)

Banuiesc ca tot asta-i motivul ptr care diezelurile tin cel mai mult, ptr ca la pornire,
din cauza ca motorina imprastiata pe camasi este si uleioasa, previne frecarea fier-pe-fier.

D'asta intrebasem DE CE OARE n-avem voie sa folosim si noi W20 in loc de W40 ?
(cineva a spus ca din cauza lipsei de precizie/cote la fabricatie/strunjire/alezare dar eu nu cred asta..)

Am gasit asta: "According to Autodata for Megane II, in Cold climate, use 0w/30 "

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Eu folosesc de vreo 5000km, deja, 5W30 care e un ulei subtire sa vad cum se comporta. Asta la un motor ce are in bord 180.000km si in realitate probabil mai mult daca samsarul de la care am luat masina nu a dat km inapoi cand a adus-o din Germanica. Deci un motor cu peste 200.000km sa zic asa.
Tin sa precizez ca nu mi-a mancat deloc ulei. Eu zic ca e bine. Astept sa vad cand va face urat la pornire, de regula cu 10W40 ma anunta pe la 10.000km, facea urat fulia defazoare. Acum tace deocamdata. Sper sa ma duca catre 15.000, daca nu aia e.


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In laguna mea cu 1.6 16v intra 4.7 l de 3 ani. An 98. La 4.7 pe jos de la motor arata maxim. In 10000 km haleste cam 300 grame.

Ulei folosesc ELF 10w40 si Castrol. Nu mi place cum se aude motorul cu 5w40. In carnetul de intretinere din 98, masina a primit doar ELF 10w40.

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Azi am schimbat filtru + ulei , am mers pe 5w30 ELF recomandat pt DPF, sa vedem ce rezultate bune obtin smile.gif

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Eu la ultimul schimb am folosit Elf Evolution 10W40 .
Inainte de schimbul asta foloseam Belco 10W40 .

Mi-a placut cum a mers masina si o sa folosesc tot Elf . In plus de asta in cartea ei asa cum a scris cineva mai sus e recomandat Elf 10W40 .



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Babaieti, o intrebare scurta:

10W40 sau 5w40?

Si de ce intreb, pana a iesit din garantie la repr. Reno din catun au bagat in ea Elf 10w40. Dupa garantie, cam intre 8-10k km, am pus 5w40.

Acum are 120k km. Ideea e ca cel 10w40 il iau moka tongue.gif si e Liqui Moly. Oare o tusi, muri... daca pun 10w?


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tuseste.


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Si apoi moare.


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