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madhorsefuzzy
post 12 Jun 2015, 14:29
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E importanta norma RN0720. Daca e aia atunci e bun, desi colegul pisky a bagat Mobil ESP 5W30 si nu i-a tusit DPF-ul pana acum.

Norma RN0720 implica, pe langa alte cerinte, un 5W30 mai grosut spre limita de unde incep xW40.

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post 19 Jun 2015, 07:29
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imi puteti spune si mie codul pentru filtru de ulei?
astazi o sa cumpar uleiul si filtrul
motor 1.5
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post 19 Jun 2015, 10:35
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Teoretic ai 2 variante pentru 1.5 dci pe Laguna 3:

7700274177 - filtru mic (inaltime 53mm) cu presiune de deschidere supapa trecere [bar]: 1,3

8200768927 - filtru mare (inaltime 63mm)cu presiune de deschidere supapa trecere [bar]: 2,5

El l-as lua pe al doilea pentru o diferenta de 10RON (30 RON vs. 20 RON) pentru presiunea mai mare pana la care filtreaza.

Si mai important e sa nu fie contrafacute.


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post 19 Jun 2015, 22:47
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Multumesc de raspuns,dar cand am vazut mesajul déjà cumparasem
sper sa fie bun filtrul care l-am luat desi are un cod diferit ,
Uleiul l-am luat de la un reprezentant motul ,sper ca nu este contrafacut

19 Jun 2015, 22:50:
Multumesc de raspuns,dar cand am vazut mesajul déjà cumparasem
sper sa fie bun filtrul care l-am luat desi are un cod diferit ,
Uleiul l-am luat de la un reprezentant motul ,sper ca nu este contrafacut

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post 24 Feb 2019, 21:17
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Salutare tuturor. Am o laguna 3 2014 2.0dci 96kw, masina o am de anul trecut iulie, i.am facut revizia completa filtre+ulei la 179000km, am bagat ulei Elf FullTech 5w30 cum am tot vazut peste tot, mi-a propus sa-l tin 15.000, de curand am facut diagnoza, masina are 189000km si diluatia uleiului este la 4%, baiatul mi-a zis ca trebuie urgent schimbat. Intre timp apare ca pe la 186000km eroare pe filtru de particule s-a blocat, nu-si mai facea regenerarea. Baiatul respectiv spunea ca e posibil din cauza uleiului sa nu-si mai fi facut regenerare. Acum vin intrebarea mea, e normal ca un ulei care zice ca poti sa.l ti 30000km, si fi praf la nici 10000km? Acum trebuie sa fac schimbul, as vrea sa incerc valvolina synpower MST C4. Ce parere aveti de alegerea mea?


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post 24 Feb 2019, 23:32
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daca ai probleme cu FAP, si tu spui ca ai ... incearca sa faca regenerari ... si FAP-ul pus pe Laguna, da iti buleste uleiul ... rezolva problema cu FAP-ul ..

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post 25 Feb 2019, 08:45
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I-a dat resetare la filtru. Deci sa inteleg ca de fapt Fap-ul strica uleiul, nu invers. E am crezut ca din cauza uleiului s-a blocat Fap-ul. Observ ca dupa 300km de la verificare , cred ca si-a revenit pentru ca e foarte fierbinte in dreptul tobelor si parca sa zic ca merge o idee mai bine maine, si consuma mai putin. Am bagat vreo 150km de autostrada alergata 160 170km/h. Si zilele astea zic sa schimb uleiul. Si dupa pune iar testerul sa vedem rezultatul.


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post 25 Feb 2019, 09:12
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cu Clip poti sa monitorizezi FAP ...este discutat pe forum trebuie doar cautat ..


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post 25 Feb 2019, 10:23
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Bine, intrebarea mea principala era legata de Valvoline, cum se comport lasand la o parte FAP-UL.


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post 25 Feb 2019, 10:44
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Valvoline synpower MST C4: Pe iarna e bun. Astept vara sa vad cum se comporta la caldura mare si forje.


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post 25 Feb 2019, 12:05
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Nu FAP-ul strica uleiul,ci uleiul dauneaza FAP.
Din acelasi motiv,uleiul pentru masinile cu FAP trebuie sa indeplineasca norma ACEA C3
ELF pentru mine e un ulei foarte prost.


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post 25 Feb 2019, 19:20
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Acesta e motivul pentru care vreau sa schimb brandul, pentru ca elful dupa nici 10.000km sa fie problema... deja e jenant. Asta motivul pentru care am intrebat de Valvoline, am tot vazut teste, si a iesit printre cele mai bune uleiuri.


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post 25 Feb 2019, 20:25
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@Marius Ionut - schimba "baiatul cu testerul" mai intai. Dupa ce faci o diagnoza calumea tragi concluzii. Eu am mers 30 mii/ 10 luni cu elf si a fost ok.
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post 25 Feb 2019, 21:07
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Nu stiu daca avea vreun interes, eu m-am dus la el sa-mi activez waze-ul si printre altele, s-a uitat la kilometri si i-a dat o scanare si mi-a zis ca la 183k km s-a oprit Fap-ul si nu si-a mai facut regerare si are 25grame cenusa, pe urma s-a uitat la diluatia uleiului ca este la 4%. Si mi-a spus ca o posibila cauza ar putea fi uleiul pentru care nu-si mai face treaba FAP-ul. Adica faza cu uleiul ca vreau altceva, esti e stric dorinta mea, el mi-a zis sa dau tot cu elf, dar sa iau din alta parte decat locul de unde iau de obicei, atata tot.


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post 25 Feb 2019, 21:12
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QUOTE(Marius Ionut @ 25 Feb 2019, 19:20)
Acesta e motivul pentru care vreau sa schimb brandul, pentru ca elful dupa nici 10.000km sa fie problema...
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problema ta este de functonare defectuoasa a FAP, nu de ulei, ulei pus a fost cel corect ... si trebuie vazut daca fap-ul tau este pe duca sau mergi doar distante scurte si nu apuca sa regenereze .... poti sa pui si mama uleiului ca problema ta ramane daca FAP nu functioneaza in parametrii ...

si eu zic sa mergi pentru o testare si la altcineva care se pricepe ..


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post 25 Feb 2019, 21:33
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Deja este sub observatie acum, masina nu merge aproape deloc in oras, numai autostrada vede, si plecari in vacanta, si credeti-ma ca nu sunt genul la consum, e masina care merge in general 160 170 viteza de croaziera. Adica eu alerg masina, asta a fost si motivul pentru care am vrut 2.0.


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post 25 Feb 2019, 21:59
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QUOTE(cj98czh @ 25 Feb 2019, 21:12)
problema ta este de functonare defectuoasa a FAP
Sa nu ne grabim cu concluziile.
QUOTE(cj98czh @ 25 Feb 2019, 21:12)
si eu zic sa mergi pentru o testare si la altcineva care se pricepe ..
Sfatul e bun!

Sunt mai multe intrebari si fapte:
1.
QUOTE(Marius Ionut @ 25 Feb 2019, 21:07)
i-a dat o scanare si mi-a zis ca la 183k km s-a oprit Fap-ul
- ce inseamna ca s-a oprit FAP-ul?
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QUOTE(Marius Ionut @ 25 Feb 2019, 21:07)
si nu si-a mai facut regerare si are 25grame cenusa,
- Regenerarea se incearca de la 32 grame in sus. La 25 de grame e normal sa nu faca regenerare.
- La mine singura regenerare pornita in forta de masina in parcare a fost mult dupa 48 grame cenusa in FAP. Nu stiu cate ca nu aveam atunci cu ce sa verific.
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QUOTE(Marius Ionut @ 25 Feb 2019, 21:07)
pe urma s-a uitat la diluatia uleiului ca este la 4%. Si mi-a spus ca o posibila cauza ar putea fi uleiul pentru care nu-si mai face treaba FAP-ul.
Unde a verificat dilutia uleiului? Uleiul poate infunda FAP-ul, dar nu ii poate impiedica regenerarea decat daca l-a infundat 100%. Iar daca e infundat 100% atunci are mai mult de 25 grame de cenusa in el.

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post 25 Mar 2019, 19:44
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salut
am cumparat de curand o laguna 3 2010 2.0 dci 150cp euro 4
as dori sa stiu daca are filtru de particule si ce ulei sa pun si cati litri ca vad 2 exemple
4,3 si 6,6 in carte scrie 6,6 iar mecanicul zice 4,3
eu as dori sa pun liqui moly 5w40 masina are 153000km
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post 25 Mar 2019, 19:52
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Intra aici și vezi tot ce ai nevoie
https://carinfo.kiev.ua/cars/vin/renault

<span class='edit'>25 Mar 2019, 18:52:</span>
Mă refer daca ai dpf sau nu

25 Mar 2019, 18:53:
Vezi ce tip de motor ai adică M9R și codul exemplu al meu M9R 742

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post 30 Mar 2019, 11:29
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mersi
uitat si este fara filtru si cod motor m9r 754


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post 7 May 2019, 09:19
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Salut,

Urmeaza sa efectuez cel de al-2 lea schimb de ulei la masinuta mea si as vrea sa incerc un ulei mai de top.
La primul schimb am folosit elf 5w30 FE care este ok.
Acum doream sa incerc liqui moly top tec 4400 5w30.
A mai incercat cineva acest ulei sau sa raman in continuare cu elf.

Mentionez ca efectuez schimbul la 10000 (aproximativ 8-10 luni).
Masinuta are 20000 de mii de km, motorul de 2l


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post 7 May 2019, 09:23
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bănuiesc ca ai dpf,folosește un ulei special pentru dpf,nu am mers cu liqui moly(nu e rău)eu merg pe castrol 5w40 (nu am dpf)


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post 7 May 2019, 09:32
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Salut,
Da, masina are DPF.


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post 7 May 2019, 09:44
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QUOTE(cozma1993 @ 7 May 2019, 10:19)
Urmeaza sa efectuez cel de al-2 lea schimb de ulei la masinuta mea si as vrea sa incerc un ulei mai de top.
La primul schimb am folosit elf 5w30 FE care este ok.
Acum doream sa incerc liqui moly top tec 4400 5w30.
A mai incercat cineva acest ulei sau sa raman in continuare cu elf.

Mentionez ca efectuez schimbul la 10000 (aproximativ 8-10 luni)
Pe norma RN0720 si 10.000Km per schimb sunt toate cam egale.

Testeaza tu LM si pune aici impresii.

Eu am testat: Ravenol, Wolf, Yacco, Motul, Elf, si Valvoline si am pus impresii.


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Schimbat ulei la 10.000 km cu Elf Evolution Fulltech FE, 5W30 (fostul Solaris).
Filtre originale group Renault:
- Cel de ulei era facut in franta.
- filtru de motorina UFI fabricat in China.
- filtru polen cu carbune activ (care nu a reusit sa mi-l monteze) si cel de aer MANN facute in Germania.

Cost piese 425 ron.
Manopera 50 ron smile.gif).

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Unde scrie daca am filtru particule?


Am avut comandat ulei plus multe altele si mi au venit prin 10 febr
Eu fiind plecat si acum in belgia
Dar ulei am luat motul 5w40 din germania...acelasi ulei ce l am bagat si in laguna 2

Acum am vazut ca ar trebui 5w30 daca are particule ....plus ca masina are instalat si stage 1

Ce ma sfatuiti sa fac.
Il bag dar il schimb mai repede sau nu il bag

Motorul merge struna fara nici o pata de ulei pe el iar tobele sunt foarte curate cat a incaput degetul..



24 Feb 2020, 18:47:
Am vazut acum particle filter....

Sfaturi ce sa fac cu uleiul

Eu de obicei comand cu aplicatia autodoc..

Toate piesele sunt din germania...parerea mea sunt mai calitative fata de ce avem noi

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post 24 Feb 2020, 19:11
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Daca tii la filtru de particule e recomandat 5w30 restul e can-can. Degeaba e uleiul bun daca nu e cel recomandat, are multa cenusa la ardere, de aici norma.

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post 24 Feb 2020, 19:37
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De care ulei Motul ai cumparat ? Citeste mai sus, in topic. Important e ca uleiul sa respencte norma RN720 sau macar sa fie gandit pentru DPF. Nu conteaza ca e 5w40 in loc de 5w30.


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este euro5...sigur are DPF


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post 24 Feb 2020, 21:41
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Am schimbat si eu uleiul la "motorasul" asta de 2.0 dCi M9R815 si vroiam sa va intreb pe calea asta ca si voi aveti cam acelasi motor: si al vostru face ca un tractor dimineata cand e frig? Adica asta e primul meu diesel din viata mea da un diesel common rail din 2012 asa face?


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