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problema pornire dimineata cu scenic 1.9 dti

Alexaxx87
post 7 Oct 2007, 11:18
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Buna tuturor, am o problema cu un scenic din 2002 1.9 dti, am fost la reprezentanta si la mutle alte service-uri si tot nu au dat de cap ce are. Porneste dimineata greu, deobicei cam 10 sec tin la prima cheie, dupa ce se incalzesc motorul sa zicem dupa 5 min daca il opresc si il pornesc iar porneste imediat. La reprezentanta mi-au spus ca e pompa de injectie si mau trimis la bosch, cei de la bosch au zis ca pompa nu are nimic, ei au zis ca e compresia. Eu cel putin nu cred ca e compresia la 120.000 km. Va rog un rsp cine stie??


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post 7 Oct 2007, 11:20
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Bujii? Releu bujii?

Masoara compresia...
Cati km are?


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post 7 Oct 2007, 11:23
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au incercat bujiile se aprindeau toate, masina are 120.000 km, la releu nu sau uitat si la compresie ei zic k nu are nici 10 atm. si eu intr-o carte de renault am citit k sub 15 nici nu porneshte.

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post 7 Oct 2007, 11:25
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10? ohmy.gif tre' sa aiba pe la 20 si ceva...


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post 7 Oct 2007, 11:26
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da stiu ei zic ca nu atingea nici 10, atunci cum naiba porneste?? ce sa fac??

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post 7 Oct 2007, 12:05
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Au masurat sau au presupus?!


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post 7 Oct 2007, 13:45
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au masurat, dar eu nu sunt sigur cum au masurat ei!!!


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post 7 Oct 2007, 14:12
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Explica!


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post 7 Oct 2007, 18:52
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Pai la 10 atm compresie la iarna nu il mai pornesti nici cu rugaciuni...
Poti sa detaliezi? mai exact ce compresie ai pe fiecare cilindu in parte...daca pe toti este cam aceeasi km masini tale sunt cu mult peste 400.000 de km....



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post 7 Oct 2007, 19:20
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pe unul din forumurile externe ziceau ca o problema de genul asta s-ar fi rezolvat cu schimbarea garniturii de chiuloasa


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post 7 Oct 2007, 22:59
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Ei au masurat pe fiecare cilindru si pe fiecare nu sarea de 10, eu zic ca este imposibil. Masina nu are mai mult de 120.000 km pt k e de mana a 2, am carte la ea am tot.

7 Oct 2007, 23:01:
Saptamana asta merg la un mecanic sa desfaca motorul sa vada daca are ceva si o sa ii spun de garnitura si de releul de la bujii si de traductorul de pe volanta, ca am mai citit aici pe forum!! Multumesc mult.

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post 7 Oct 2007, 23:03
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Inainte sa te apuci de lucrari majore, mai masoara o data compresia! (in alta parte decat prima oara)

Am mai avut eu parte de unu' care-mi zicea ca am 5-6 bari in fiecare cilindru iar la o a doua masuratoare cu o scula adevarata aveam 12-13...


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post 8 Oct 2007, 07:17
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Inainte de a deschide o lucrare la masina iti propun sa mergi intr-un service serios si sa o supui unui control amanuntit. Mecanicii in Romania (nu toti) sunt slab pregatiti, indiferenti si pusi numai pe capatuiala.


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post 8 Oct 2007, 07:56
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Eu iti recomand sa te duci la un atelier specializat pe motoare diesel si sa-ti masoare inca odata compresia....daca iese tot la fel motorul tau este terminat....si cred ca ar trebui sa iei in calcul refacerea lui sau cumpararea altuia....si daca a ajuns asa da-mi voie sa ma indoiesc de cei 120.000 de km....dar hai sa nu ne gandim la ce este mai rau....sa ne tii la curent cu ce se intampla..


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post 14 Oct 2007, 10:10
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Am fost la mecanic si problema este la pompa de motorina nu are presiune, e vorba de un releu, se poate repara nu e o problema grava, acum chiar respir usurat..smile.gif.Multumesc tuturor pentru ajutor


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post 17 Oct 2007, 12:03
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Am aceeasi problema si eu la un scenic - 1,9 dti cu 121000 km - din 1999, cum a venit un pic de frig seara , dimineata porneste doar dupa ce tin contacul 2 - 3 secunde , adica invirte motorul si apoi porneste , in restul zilei nu am probleme de pornire !

am bujii noi de 1 an de zile baterie tot de 1 an de zile - filtre noi, cica problema ar fi cablul de la baterie care este legat la masa pe motor !
stie careva unde este acest cablu legat la motor ?

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