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dan22y
post 10 Jan 2015, 10:11
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Are cineva idee ce este butonul fals din dreapta volanului un pic mai jos, ce functie avea? Eu am gasit o mufa maro pe acolo... sa fie de la butonul de CC/SL ?


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post 10 Jan 2015, 23:03
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In locul acela s-ar fi montat butonul pentru senzorii de parcare.


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post 5 Mar 2015, 14:52
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Aici Clio III Yahoo 1.2 Tempomat, Cruise Control, Limitator viteză rezolvarea pentru mine smile.gif


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post 24 Mar 2015, 16:14
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QUOTE(r_vlad @ 10 Jan 2015, 23:03)
In locul acela s-ar fi montat butonul pentru senzorii de parcare.
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la meg2 butonul pt oprirea senzorior de parcare este pe consola de la frana de mana.


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post 24 Mar 2015, 21:30
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Am fost contactat de un utilizator "marian_ariciuc" pentru tempomat pe Logan. Imi pare rău că nu am destule postări pentru PM, dar căutările mele pe acest subiect au fost doar pentru Clio III, Phase II. Multe asemănări au fost cu Megane. Nu știu nimic de Logan.


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dan22y
post 17 Apr 2015, 07:58
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Am adunat cele necesare montarii CC/SL pt Clio 3 1.5dCi. Am cumparat butoanele de pe volan (o sa incerc sa decupez capacul de airbag cum au facut si altii la Megane 2), spira airbag, buton activare CC/SL si fire de 0.5mm2. Am identificat schemele si tot ce trebuie. Sunt curios daca merge fara activare din CLIP. Am vazut pe unele forumuri ca ar merge si fara activare.

Sper in weekend sa am timp. Revin cu poze si explicatii.

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post 17 Apr 2015, 09:31
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tb codat pe ecu si instrumente ca sa functioneze.


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post 17 Apr 2015, 11:42
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Da, asta banuiam si eu. Sa vedem cum o dam la pace cu CLIPul.


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post 17 Apr 2015, 12:37
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se codeaza foarte usor, lafel si cu ddt2000.


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post 17 Apr 2015, 21:00
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Din pacate nu am reusit decat codare pe instrumente. Pe 120 - injectie nu merge codat. Posibil versiune soft CLIP veche?


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post 18 Apr 2015, 09:01
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din semnatura ta inteleg ca ai clio 3 1.5dci euro4 de 86cp (63kw) pt ca de 90 nu exista. Astfel ai avea ECU Delphi DCM1.2 , la acest ECU nu se codeaza optiunea de cruise, dar poate functiona prost (in suturi) daca nu are calibrarea corecta.

Iti functioneaza cruise-ul / limitatorul?


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post 18 Apr 2015, 09:27
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Este Euro 4 cel de 68cp resoftat.
Da am Delphi DCM 1.2. Pe optiunile din Clip la 120 zicea Fara Cruise Control si nu se putea activa sau modifica.
Pe ceasuri imi apare icoana de la CC insa nu am tras deocamdata cablajul pana nu clarific cu activarea.


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post 18 Apr 2015, 13:50
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incearca sa legi cele 2 fire la ecu , adica de test, fara sa tragi butoanele prin masina, ridici capota, le legi, si verifici pe clip daca le simte, a si mai ai de legat si switch-ul cc/limitator.

Pe Loganul meu din semnatura a mers fara nici o recodare ECU (care e lafel ca al tau), dar calibrarea nu era buna, mergea in suturi cruise-ul la 130 de exemplu, am renuntat.


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post 18 Apr 2015, 16:52
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Ai legat firele corespunzator , montat rezistente, alimentat 12 v, si nu a mers pe Clio 3?


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post 18 Apr 2015, 18:14
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ce rezistente daca are butoanele originale?


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post 18 Apr 2015, 20:27
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Saptamana care vine o sa probez "pe genunchi" cum a zis si djcristi, si vedem ce obtinem. Macar nu decupez de pomana capacul de airbag smile.gif


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post 15 Jun 2015, 07:58
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Din cauza de lipsa timp, nu am apucat sa montez nimic.

Ideea e daca a mai montat cineva pe varianta de 68cp diesel cu DCIM1.2 ca si UCE?


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post 15 Jun 2015, 13:50
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am montat eu pe loganul din semnatura care are acelasi motor respectiv ECU si mergea in suturi cruise-ul, neavand calibrarea potrivita. Dar la Clio s-ar putea sa fie cea buna, avand in vedere ca se monteaza oficial si CC pe el.


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post 15 Jun 2015, 15:33
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Ma gandesc de ce se activeaza doar pe ceasurile de bord? Acum cand pun contactul apare icoana de limitator de viteaza aprinsa si ramane asa cam 10 secunde dupa care se stinge. Nu am montat nimic nici un fir sau buton. Urmeaza... smile.gif


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post 15 Jun 2015, 16:24
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pai ECU se codeaza automat cand simte butoanele de cruise, sau switch-ul de cruise/limiter.

nu uita ca s-ar putea sa ai nevoie si de contactul de la ambreiaj, nu stiu daca clio 3 vine cu el montat chiar daca este fara CC.


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post 15 Jun 2015, 16:57
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Trebuie si alta pedala de acceleratie, daca vrei sa faci treaba ca la carte, daca nu, speed limiterul trebuie folosit cu grija,c a devine periculos..asa cu carpeli.


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post 15 Jun 2015, 17:03
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Cristi, altul decat asta?
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@argon: asa este, va fi si alta pedala de acceleratie wink.gif Oricum nu am facut in viata mea carpeli la masinile mele wink.gif

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post 15 Jun 2015, 19:41
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QUOTE(argon @ 15 Jun 2015, 17:57)
Trebuie si alta pedala de acceleratie, daca vrei sa faci treaba ca la carte, daca nu, speed limiterul  trebuie folosit cu grija,c a devine periculos..asa cu carpeli.
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Pe asta de unde ai scos-o? Ce treaba are pedala de acc cu CC-ul?

15 Jun 2015, 20:43:
@dan22y , il ai deja la ambreiaj, dupa cum spuneam, unele modele il au indiferent de echipare.

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post 16 Jun 2015, 07:18
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Mai citeste odata postul citat chiar de tine, sa intelegi.


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post 16 Jun 2015, 14:04
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pai nu e nimic de inteles, pedala e lafel indiferent de echipare, pt ca la Renault toate trec peste limitator cand e apasata maxim, nu ai contact sub pedala ca la alta marci. Deci de ce tb schimbata?


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post 16 Jun 2015, 14:18
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E alta pedala cu alt cod la cele cu limitator, cea simpla merge pe limitator, dar nu poti anula apasand la maxim, deci trebuie sa o schimbi cu cea dedicata.


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post 16 Jun 2015, 14:19
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Argon are dreptate ... nu ca ar fi stiut treaba asta dar a aflat de curand pe pielea lui smile.gif


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post 16 Jun 2015, 14:26
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asta e tipic o aberatie Renault , pai cea normala nu are o simte tot 0-100% ?! ECU face bypass-ul cand simte 100%, nu prea inteleg ce importanta ar avea pedala...

De ce ar fi doar la Clio diferit? Oricum limitatorul se poate dezactiva rapid si apasand 0 pe volan, parca e chiar mai la indemana decat sa apesi pedala la maxim wink.gif

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Nu este doar la Clio este si la Megane la fel ..


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post 16 Jun 2015, 15:01
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corect, am investigat , la megane 2.2 este 8200153270 (with cruise) si 8200153268 (w/o cruise).

La Clio 3 ar fi 8200297342 (cu) si 8200297335 (fara)

La meg2.2 e 500ron, la clio 3 e 250ron. Politica de preturi Renault...

Dar nu inteleg diferenta constructiva, avand in vedere ca in schema ambele (cu sau fara cruise) au 2 potentiometre respectiv 6 contacte... , plus ca toti care au facut retrofit CC la meg2 nu au schimbat pedala si merge perfect si limitatorul.

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