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Tipul de ulei folosit!, Dupa cati km este recomandat schimbul?

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post 8 Sep 2017, 11:31
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Ar avea sens sa pun Motul full sintetic de 5W40 intr-un motor vechi din 99 de 2L de la Renault cu km destul de multi?
Nu stiu daca da. De asta am mers pe ceva mai de doamne ajuta cu 10W40.


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Are sens, și ajutã indiferent de km sau vechimea mașinii .
Din contrã,eu cred ca vei simți diferențe ... Și nu e chiar atât de scump
comparat cu alte produse de același tip.


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Doar pt cine este interesat
ULEIURI PT BENZINARE
APROBATE oficial NUMAI DUPA TESTARE PE CIRCUIT DE CURSE NURBURGRING minim 200 ORE... si analiza interna si masuratori pe motor dupa...
lista noua 2016
Multe din ele au si norma Renault PT BENZINA trecuta pe bidon CARE BINEINTELES ESTE INGLOBATA IN PORSCHE A40

Atentie sunt versiuni de uleiuri ADITIVATE MAI SLAB ce sunt in lista DE MAI JOS pt pietele estice ce nu au norma trecuta pe bidon (Porsche A40)..... se verifica inainte de cumparare pe eticheta bidonului de ulei.


Technical Information Freigabe/Approval 23/15 ENU 1701 1
Jan 19, 2016
Overview of Approved Porsche A40 Engine Oils (23/15)
Model year: as of 1984
Revision:
This bulletin replaces bulletin Group 1, #14/15, dated October 16, 2015.
Vehicle Type:
All Porsche vehicles for which Porsche A40 engine oils are allocated.
Overview:
Information
Porsche AG has reached an agreement with the oil companies which involves setting a time limit on the validity of our engine oil
approvals.
The period of validity is between 2 and 3 years. The expiration date of the approval is given in the last column in the list.
Once this validity period has elapsed, the approval in question is revoked unless an extension is requested by the relevant manufacturer.
Addinol Lube Oil GmbH Super Light 0540 5W-40 EU, Asia 30.11.2016
Addinol Lube Oil GmbH HIGH STAR, SAE 5W-40 5W-40 EU 30.11.2016
Addinol Lube Oil GmbH Eco Light 5W-40 EU, Asia 30.11.2016
Adnoc Distribution Adnoc Voyager Gold 5W-40 Middle East, AF 31.01.2016
AMSOIL Inc. AMSOIL European Car Formula 5W-40 5W-40 N-America 31.03.2016
AMSOIL Inc. AMSOIL Full SAPS European Formula 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.12.2017
ARAL AG HighTronic 5W-40 WW 29.02.2016
ARAL AG HighTronic M 5W-40 WW 30.04.2017
ARAL AG SuperSynth 0W-40 WW 31.07.2018
ARAL AG MegaSynth 0W-40 WW 31.07.2016
ARAL AG MegaSynth 5W-40 WW 31.03.2016
ARAL AG SuperTronic 0W-40 WW 31.05.2016
Atlantic Grease & Lubricants FZC. Super Synthec SAE 5W-40 Middle East, S-America 31.08.2017
AVIA Mineralöl AG Avia Synth LS 0W-40 0W-40 WW 31.05.2016
AVIA Mineralöl AG Avia Synth 5W-40 5W-40 DEU 31.07.2016
AVISTA OIL AG MOTOR GOLD Supertec SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.01.2018
Bapco (The Bahrain Petroleum Company) Charger Xtreem SAE 5W–40 5W-40 Middle East, W-AF, E-AF, SE-Asia 30.11.2016
Bapco (The Bahrain Petroleum Company) Charger RT, SAE 5W–40 5W-40 Middle East, W-AF, E-AF, SE-Asia 30.11.2016
Bardahl Asia Pacific Pte Ltd SynPulsar-N SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 28.02.2018
BLU Canada Limited BLU Synthetic Technician Series LS-FS 5W-40 WW 30.06.2017
BP plc BP Super V Plus 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.08.2016
Burj Eiffel Int Lubricants Ind. L.L.C. Eiffel Opera Ultimate 5W40 SN/CF 5W-40 WW 31.03.2017
Canadian Tire Motomaster Formula 1 Synthetic SAE 5W-40 5W-40 Canada 31.01.2018
CASTROL Limited Castrol Edge Professional A3 0W-40 0W-40 WW 31.07.2018
CASTROL Limited Castrol Edge 0W-40 A3/B4 0W-40 WW 31.07.2018
CASTROL Limited Castrol Edge Professional A3 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016
CASTROL Limited Castrol Edge 5W-40 SN 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016
CASTROL Limited Castrol Edge Professional OE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.10.2016
CASTROL Limited Castrol Edge with SPT 5W-40 5W-40 US, Latin America 31.10.2016
CASTROL Limited Miocar MX Syntra 5W-40 5W-40 EU 30.04.2017
CEPSA Lubricantes CEPSA XTAR 5W-40 505.01 5W-40 WW 31.10.2016
CEPSA Lubricantes CEPSA GENUINE 5W40 SYNTHETIC 5W-40 EU 30.04.2017
CEPSA Lubricantes CEPSA AVANT 5W40 SYN 5W-40 WW 30.04.2017
Chevron Technology
Gent Havoline Ultra S 5W-40 5W-40 EU, Australia, S-AF,
S-America 31.03.2017
Chevron Technology GentHavoline Ultra 5W-40 5W-40 EU 31.01.2017
Chevron Technology GentHavoline Synthetic Euro Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 5W-40 N-America 31.03.2017
Chevron Technology GentHavoline Pro DS Full Synthetic Euro Motor Oil SAE
5W-40 5W-40 N-America 31.03.2017
Chevron Technology GentHavoline Synthetic 5W-40 5W-40 EU 31.03.2017
Chevron Technology GentHavoline ProDS Fully Synthetic LE SAE 5W-40 5W-40 Asia-Pacific, Middle-East 28.02.2018
Chevron Technology GentHavoline ProDS Fully Synthetic SAE 0W-40 0W-40 Asia Pacific 30.11.2017
Chevron Technology GentHavoline ProDS Fully Synthetic SAE 5W-40 5W-40 Asia Pacific 30.04.2017
DE OLIEBRON B.V. Tor Hypersynth, SAE 5W-40 5W-40 EU, Middle-East, AF, CIS 31.11.2016
DEUTSCHE ÖLWERKE LUBMIN AVENO Full Synth. 0W40 0W-40 WW 30.09.2017
DEUTSCHE PENTOSIN-WERKE PENTOSYNTH HC 5W-40 EU, N-America, S-America, Asia 29.02.2016
DEUTSCHE PENTOSIN-WERKE Pento High Performance II 5W-40 5W-40 EU, N-America, S-America, Asia 29.02.2016
DEUTSCHE PENTOSIN-WERKE Pentosynth R 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.10.2016

DKR PETROLEUM CO. ENERGY RELEASE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.08.2017
DKR PETROLEUM CO ENERGY RELEASE 5W-40 (ER 5W-40) 5W-40 WW 31.08.2016
Elf Elf Evolution 900 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.01.2017
Elf Elf Evolution 900 FT 0W-40 0W-40 WW 30.09.2016
Elf Elf Evolution Full-Tech C3 5W-40 5W-40 WW 28.02.2018
Elf Elf Evolution Full-Tech LSX 5W-40 5W-40 WW 28.02.2018
Elf Elf Excellium C3 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.08.2017
Elf Elf Evolution 900 Turbo 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.01.2017
eni S.p.A. eni i-Sint 0W-40 0W-40 N-America 31.10.2016
eni S.p.A. eni i-Sint 5W-40 5W-40 EU 27.02.2017
eni S.p.A. eni i-Sint 4AM 5W-40 5W-40 N-America 31.10.2016
eni S.p.A. eni i-Sint PC 4AM 5W-40 5W-40 N-America 30.04.2017
ESRON PETROLEUM SDN BHD HARDEX EXIMUS MAX F-SYN ENGINE OIL 5W-40 Asia 31.12.2016
EXXONMOBIL Corporation Mobil 1 0W-40 0W-40 WW 30.04.2017
EXXONMOBIL Corporation Mobil 1 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.04.2017
EXXONMOBIL Corporation Mobil 1 5W-50 5W-50 WW 30.04.2017
EXXONMOBIL Corporation Mobil 1 New Life 0W-40 0W-40 WW 30.04.2017
EXXONMOBIL Corporation Mobil Super 3000 X1 5W-40 5W-40 EU, Asia 31.05.2016
EXXONMOBIL Corporation Mobil Super 3000 XE1 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016
EXXONMOBIL Corporation Mobil Super 3000 X3 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016
EXXONMOBIL Corporation Mobil 1 Peak Life 5W-50 5W-50 WW 30.04.2017
EXXONMOBIL Corporation Mobil Super 3000 X2 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.12.2017
EXXONMOBIL Corporation Mobil Formula X2 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.12.2017
FUCHS TITAN Supersyn SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.09.2017
FUCHS TITAN GT1 5W-40 5W-40 WW 29.02.2016
FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE 0W-40 0W-40 WW 31.08.2016
FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.12.2016
German Mirror MIRR ALMA SUPER PLUS API SM SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 28.02.2017
GRUPA LOTOS SA Lotos Quazar 5W-40 5W-40 EU, Asia, N-America, S-America, AF, AUS 29.02.2016
GULF OIL International Gulf Formula ULE 5W-40 WW except USA, ESP, Portugal 28.02.2018
GULF OIL International Gulf Formula G 5W-40 WW except USA, ESP, Portugal 31.12.2017
GULF OIL International Gulf Formula S 5W-40 ESP, Portugal 31.01.2017
GULF OIL International Gulf Progress Efficiency 5W-40 5W-40 WW 28.02.2018
IGOL France IGOL PROFIVE DIAMANT 5W-40 5W-40 WW 29.02.2016
Interparts Autoteile GmbH masteroil c-tec Power 5W-40 5W-40 DEU 31.07.2016
Interparts Autoteile GmbH Trost masteroil c-tec Power 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.03.2016
Interparts Autoteile GmbH Trost masteroil v-tec Premium 0W-40 0W-40 WW 31.01.2017
Interparts Autoteile GmbH masteroil c-tec Power, SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016
JIANGSU LONGPAN PERTOCHEMICAL CO., LTD LOPAL 9900 5W-40 Asia 30.04.2017
Kuwait Petroleum Research &
Technology B.V. (Q8)
Q8 Formula M Long Life SAE
5W-40 5W-40 EU, SE-Asia, N-America, Middle
East, RUS 31.10.2016
Kuwait Petroleum Research & Technology
B.V. (Q8)
Q8 Formula Excel, SAE 5W-
40 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016
LIQUI MOLY Liqui Moly Leichtlauf High Tech SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.07.2016
LIQUI MOLY Liqui Moly Top Tec 4100 5W-40 WW 28.02.2018
LIQUI MOLY Liqui Moly Pro-Engine M 900 5W-40 WW 31.07.2016
LIQUI MOLY Liqui Moly Leichtlauf HC7 5W-40 WW 31.12.2016
LLK International (LUKOIL Lubricants
Company) LUKOIL GENESIS 5W-40 5W-40 EU, RUS, CIS,
Asia 30.04.2017
LLK International (LUKOIL Lubricants Company) LUKOIL GENESIS Premium 5W-40 5W-40 EU, RUS, CIS 29.02.2016
LLK International (LUKOIL Lubricants Company) LUKOIL GENESIS POLAR 0W-40 0W-40 EU, RUS, CIS 30.09.2016
LLK International (LUKOIL Lubricants Company) LUKOIL LUXE Synthetic 5W-40 EU, RUS, CIS 30.04.2016
LLK International (LUKOIL Lubricants Company) LUKOIL GENESIS SPECIAL 5W-40 5W-40 EU, RUS, CIS,
Asia 30.04.2017
LLK International (LUKOIL Lubricants Company) LUKOIL LUXE SPECIAL 5W-40 5W-40 EU, Asia 30.04.2017
LLK International (LUKOIL Lubricants Company) LUKOIL GENESIS POLARTECH 0W-
40 0W-40 EU, Asia 30.11.2017
LLK International (LUKOIL Lubricants Company) LUKOIL GENESIS ARMORTECH 5W-
40 5W-40 EU, Asia 30.04.2017
Lubricant Company SINOPEC SINOPEC JUSTAR J700F 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.03.2016
Lubritech Limited GEP Rayspeed Syntherm 0W-40 China, Malaysia, Singapore, AUS 31.10.2017
MEGUIN GmbH & Co. KG megol Motorenoel High Condition, SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016
MEGUIN GmbH & Co. KG megol Motorenoel Ultra Performance Longlife, SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016
MEGUIN GmbH & Co. KG megol Motorenoel Low Emission 5W-40 WW 28.02.2018
MINERVA-OIL SAS TSH 5W-40 5W-40 EU, AF 28.02.2018
MITAN Mineralöl GmbH ALPINE RSL 5W-40 5W-40 EU 30.11.2016
Mitasu Oil Mitasu Platinum PA 5W-40 Asia, CIS 28.02.2017
MOTOREX Bucher MOTOREX SELECT SP-X 5W-40 EU 29.02.2016
MOTOREX Bucher MOTOREX XPERIENCE FS-X SAE 0W/40 0W-40 WW 30.11.2017
MOTUL 8100 X-clean 5W-40 5W-40 WW 29.02.2016
MOTUL Motul Synergie 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.04.2017
Overview of Approved Porsche A40 Engine Oils (23/15) Page 2 of 4

MOTUL FEU VERT 100% Synthèse 5W-40 5W-40 FRA, ESP, POR, PL 30.04.2017
MOTUL MOTUL EXPERT M 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.04.2017
MOTUL 8100 X-MAX 0W-40 0W-40 WW 31.07.2016
Oel-Brack AG Midland Synqron 0W-40 EU 31.01.2017
Orlen Deutschland AG PLATINUM PRO C3 5W-40 5W-40 EU, RUS 31.01.2017
Oscar Lubricants L.L.C. Oscar Jade Gold, SAE 5W-40 5W-40 Middle East 30.11.2016
Pakelo Motor Oil S.r.l. Krypton XT LA SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.05.2016
PATTCOLUBE (M) SDN BHD PRINCE - FS1 Fully Synthetic 5W-40 WW 31.10.2016
Pennzoil-Quaker State Pennzoil Ultra Euro 0W-40 USA, CAN & Central America 31.10.2016
Pennzoil-Quaker State QS Ultimate Durability European 5W-40 USA, CAN & Central America 31.10.2016
Pennzoil-Quaker State Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0W-40 USA, CAN, China 31.10.2016
Pennzoil-Quaker State Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W-40 USA, CAN, China 01.11.2016
Pennzoil-Quaker State Pennzoil Ultra Euro Full Synthetic Motor Oil 5W-40 5W-40 America 01.11.2016
PetroChina Lubricant Company KUNLUN TIANRUN KR9–T 0W-40 0W-40 China 30.11.2017
Petrogal S.A. galp energia Galp Energy Ultra LS 5W-40 WW 29.02.2016
Petromin Corporation Petromin Supersyn plus SAE 5W-40 5W-40 Middle East, EU, Asia, AF 30.06.2017
Petron Corporation Ultron Fully Synthetic 5W-40 Philippines, Malaysia, China, Cambodia, Brunei 31.03.2017
PETRONAS LUBRICANTS INTERNATIONAL PETRONAS SYNTIUM 3000 AV 5W-40 EU, Asia, S-America 31.03.2017
PETRONAS LUBRICANTS INTERNATIONAL PETRONAS SYNTIUM 7000 0W-40 0W-40 WW 30.11.2017
POSIM PETROLEUM MARKETING SDN BHD HI-REV 5W-40 Asia, EU, USA 30.04.2017
RALOY LUBRICANTES, S.A. DE C.V. Krönen Multigrado Sintetico 5W-40 Latin America, MEX 29.02.2016
Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH RAVENOL Super Synthetic Öl SSL 0W-40 0W-40 WW 30.11.2017
Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH RAVENOL VollSynth Turbo VST SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.07.2016
Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH RAVENOL VSI SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016
Reliance Fluids Technologies, LLC GulfTEC Full Synthetic Euro, SAE 5W-40 5W-40 USA, CAN, Puerto Rico 30.11.2016
REPSOL YPF Repsol Elite Competition 5W-40 EU, Middle East, Far East 30.04.2017
ROWE Mineralölwerk GmbH ROWE HIGHTEC SYNT RSi SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.07.2016
Sasol Oil (Pty) Ltd Sasol Engine Oil Synthetic M, Sae 5W-40 5W-40 AF 30.11.2016
Shell International Petroleum
Company
Shell Helix HX8 C 0W-40 EU 31.10.2016
Shell International Petroleum
Company
Shell Helix Ultra 0W-40 WW, except USA& CAN 31.10.2016
Shell International Petroleum
Company
Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 EU, CEE, Latin America, Middle East, Asia, Oceania,
USA, E-RUS, AF
31.10.2016
Shell Tongyi (Beijing) Syneng 8 SN 5W-40 5W-40 China 30.04.2017
Singapore Petroleum Company Limited SPC SYN ACE SUPREME API SN 5W-40 Asia 31.01.2016
SK lubricants ZIC XQ RV 5W-40 RUS, S-Asia, E-Asia, EU 31.05.2016
SK lubricants ZIC X9 5W-40 5W-40 EU, Asia, America 30.04.2017
Speed Metal International Co., Ltd. Speed Metal 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.12.2016
SRS Schmierstoff Vertrieb GmbH SRS ViVA 1 topsynth 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016
TOP 1 OIL Products Company Evolution OEM Series-04 5W-40 Asia Pacific 28.02.2017
Totachi Industrial Co. Ltd. Japan TOTACHI 5W-40 Asia 31.08.2017
TOTAL Total Quartz 9000 Energy 0W-40 0W-40 WW 30.09.2016
TOTAL Total Quartz 9000 Energy 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.08.2016
TOTAL Total Quartz INEO MC3 5W-40 5W-40 WW 28.02.2018
TOTAL Total Quartz 9000 Energy RQ 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016
TOTAL Total Activa 9000 Essence 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.04.2017
TOTAL Total Activa 9000 SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.01.2017
TOTAL Total Quartz 9000 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.08.2016
UNIL OPAL Opaljet 24S, SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.07.2016
UNIL OPAL Opaljet Futura 5W-40 WW 29.02.2016
UNITED OIL COMPANY PTE OIL United Oil 5W-40 Asia 31.03.2016
Valvoline Europe Valvoline SynPower MST SAE 5W-40 5W-40 USA, China 28.02.2017
Valvoline Europe SynPower motor oil SAE 0W-40 0W-40 EU, Middle East, N-AF 31.08.2016
Valvoline Europe VPS C3 5W-40 Synthetic 5W-40 EU, Middle East, AF 28.02.2018
Vekotec International PTE Ltd. Velotac Auto VX 0W-40 Asia 30.11.2017
Wakefield Canada Inc. Wakefield Synthetic SAE 5W-40 5W-40 Canada 31.07.2017
WAKO’s Chemical Company Limited Japan 4CT-S 5W-40 Japan 31.05.2016
WESTFALEN - Germany Westfalen Gigatron 0W-40 0W-40 EU 31.07.2018
YACCO YACCO VX 1000 FAP 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.12.2017
YACCO YACCO VX 1000 LL 0W-40 0W-40 WW 31.01.2017
YACCO YACCO VX 1000 LL 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.04.2017
YURI Industrial Co., Ltd. JUDY 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.12.2016
YURI Industrial Co., Ltd. K.P 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.12.2016
YURI Industrial Co., Ltd. JIAMOSE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016
Sales Areas:
The respective sales area is also listed in order to clarify where the approved oils are available. Here are the meanings of the symbols:
WW Worldwide ESP Spain
EU Europe FIN Finland
Overview of Approved Porsche A40 Engine Oils (23/15) Page 3 of 4

E-EU Eastern Europe FRA France
USA United States of America GB Great Britain and Northern Ireland
C-America Central America IRL Ireland
N-America North America JAP Japan
S-America South America MEX Mexico
AF Africa NOR Norway
Asia Asia NZL New Zealand
FSU Former Soviet Union RUS Russia
BS Baltic countries SCG Croatia
AUS Australia SVK Slovakia
AUT Austria SWE Sweden
BRA Brazil TWN Taiwan
CAN Canada UAE United Arab Emirates
CH Switzerland UKR Ukraine
CHN China VNM Vietnam
DEU Germany ZA South Africa
Miscibility:
All engine oils approved by Porsche can be mixed provided they are of the same Porsche oil specification. This means that it is not
necessary to flush the engine when the oil is changed if another type of oil is used. However, since every brand of oil has a specially
adapted unique composition, the same brand and type of oil should be used for topping up between oil change intervals if possible.
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Salut! Pentru un clio 3 1.5 dci, 55 kw, 130.000 km, ce ulei recomandati:
1-Elf 5w40 sxr
2-Valvoline Synpower 5w40
3-Liqui Moly Leichtlauf High Tech 5W40
Pana acum am folosit Elf si o data Ravenol VST. Valvoline am folosit la alta masina tdi si merge bine. Toate au cam acelasi pret si specificatii, doar Valvoline findi full sintetic din ce am citit.
Voi pe care l-ati alege/recomanda?
Va multumesc!

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Care-i mai ieftin. Orice ai alege isi face treaba.


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Valvoline Synpower 5w40 din lista celor 3.
Sau Fuchs Titan Supersyn RN 5w40


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Ravenol VSI.


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O recomandare pentru ELF 5W40 Evolution 900 intre NF si SXR? (pentru motorul din semnatura)
Dupa 190.000 km de ELF 10W40 TD recomandat de reprezentante Renault, am decis eu sa trec pe 5W40 Evolution 900 NF pe ultimii 10.000km. Rezultatul a fost ca motorul e mai silentios peste 2500rpm si la relanti. In plus n-a pierdut niciun strop de ulei cum amenintau mecanicii ca-i vascozitatea prea mica si motorul prea batran. Sunt diferente notabile intre NF si SXR?


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Ideea este ca Valvoline 5w40 costa 120 lei bidonul de 5 litri, iar Elf sxr 128 lei si se lauda este made in France. O sa vad saptamana viitoare. Mersi pt sfaturi.


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Din ce știam eu, Valvoline se face în Olanda. Asta dacã proveniența prezintã importanțã.


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Nu se poate compara Valvoline cu ELF.
ELF e pãr la ceas pe lângã Valvoline, fie el fabricat în orice țarã. (Cei de la TOTAL îl fac)
Andreea, dacã te-ai axat pe astea doua,și dacã nu ai DPF (nu ai specificat ce tip de motor ai) mergi pe Valvoline.

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De ce nu se poate compara Elf cu Valvoline?


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Motorul este 1.5 dci? 55 kw, fara filtru particule, cod K9K770. La uleiul Valvoline sa merg pe varianta simpla Synpower 5w40 sau cea extreme mst c3 (care costa mai mult)? Ambele respecta normele Renault si sunt produse in Olanda.

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Renault merge bine cu Elf ... sunt motoare duse la multe sute de mii de km fara interventii ... dar sunt destui care au schimbat tipul de ulei si a inceput sa il pape sau sa fie motorul mai galagios ... tu vrei sa schimbi o reteta testata ... banii tai, decizia ta ... repet eu as merge pe Elf pt. ca l-am folosit pe toate Renault-urile avute si nu a fost nici o problema cu nici unul ... tu faci cum doresti.

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QUOTE(Mr_X @ 15 Sep 2017, 04:44)
De ce nu se poate compara Elf cu Valvoline?
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Este diferenta mare intre ele. Unul e Mineral,celalt sintetic.
Cauta MSDS-urile cestora si vezi diferente intre ele. Sunt mari.

QUOTE(andreea_madalina82 @ 15 Sep 2017, 07:02)
Motorul este 1.5 dci? 55 kw, fara filtru particule, cod K9K770. La uleiul Valvoline sa merg pe varianta simpla Synpower 5w40 sau cea extreme mst c3 (care costa mai mult)? Ambele respecta normele Renault si sunt produse in Olanda.
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Nu merita sa platesti mai mult pe un C3, si nici nu te ajuta cu nimic,din contra. Pierzi TBN,si mai putina ungere (mai sarac in Sulf si Fosofor,agenti puternici ce ungere).




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ia valvoline synpower 5w40, pe la 8000-8500km sa schimbi uleiul si filtrul.


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Uleiurile moderne nu pot fi tinute 10.000Km in motor?


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Nu am schimbat niciodata uleiul la Renault mai devreme de 15.000 km sau 1 an. La inceput am schimbat la 20.000 km uleiul pana la 80.000 km, cand am schimbat si distributia, conform cartii. Daca tot sunt uleiuri de calitate nu inteleg de ce trebuie sa fac revizia la 8000-10.000 km?!!!


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QUOTE(andreea_madalina82 @ 14 Sep 2017, 20:05)
Ideea este ca Valvoline 5w40 costa 120 lei bidonul de 5 litri, iar Elf sxr 128 lei si se lauda este made in France. O sa vad saptamana viitoare. Mersi pt sfaturi.
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La autokarma este 92 sau 96 lei bidonul de 5L. Elf.


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Vroiam sa il cumpar de pe uleideulei.ro. Cica au ulei Elf made in France.

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QUOTE(andreea_madalina82 @ 17 Sep 2017, 22:52)
Nu am schimbat niciodata uleiul la Renault mai devreme de 15.000 km sau 1 an. La inceput am schimbat la 20.000 km uleiul pana la 80.000 km, cand am schimbat si distributia, conform cartii. Daca tot sunt uleiuri de calitate nu inteleg de ce trebuie sa fac revizia la 8000-10.000 km?!!!
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Pentru ca unii au ramas pe vremea Daciei 1300 cu schimb de ulei la 3000Km...


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QUOTE(cj98czh @ 15 Sep 2017, 08:23)
Renault merge bine cu Elf ... sunt motoare duse la multe sute de mii de km fara interventii ... dar sunt destui care au schimbat tipul de ulei si a inceput sa il pape sau sa fie motorul mai galagios ... tu vrei sa schimbi o reteta testata  ... banii tai, decizia ta ... repet eu as merge pe Elf pt. ca l-am folosit pe toate Renault-urile avute si nu a fost nici o problema cu nici unul ... tu faci cum doresti.
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Exact ce a spus colegul mai sus. Din experienta cu Megane 2, a mers numai pe Elf si nu a avut nici o problema in atatia ani. O singura data acum multi ani i-am bagat Castrol Edge si tacanea ca ultimul tractor. Dupa ce am revenit la Elf s-a domolit din nou.

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QUOTE(meg2s @ 14 Sep 2017, 20:19)
O recomandare pentru ELF 5W40 Evolution 900 intre NF si SXR? (pentru motorul din semnatura)
Dupa 190.000 km de ELF 10W40 TD recomandat de reprezentante Renault, am decis eu sa trec pe 5W40 Evolution 900 NF pe ultimii 10.000km. Rezultatul a fost ca motorul e mai silentios peste 2500rpm si la relanti. In plus n-a pierdut niciun strop de ulei cum amenintau mecanicii ca-i vascozitatea prea mica si motorul prea batran. Sunt diferente notabile intre NF si SXR?
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Pai, ELF Evolution SXR este "dezvoltat special pentru marca Renault" si se conformeaza la normele impuse de aceasta (ACEA A3/B4 - API SN/CF; RENAULT RN0700, RN0710), iar NF pentru celelalte marci (ACEA A3/B4 - API SL/CF; VW 502.00/505.00; MB-Approval 229.3; PORSCHE A40). Eu le-am folosit pe ambele si nu am sesizat vreo diferenta in termeni de comportament sau pierderi. Ma gandesc ca daca este aprobat de VW, MB si Porsche atunci nu ai de ce sa iti faci griji.

P.S. nu o sa scoata zgomotele unui Porsche daca ii pui NF tongue.gif

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QUOTE(andreea_madalina82 @ 17 Sep 2017, 21:52)
Nu am schimbat niciodata uleiul la Renault mai devreme de 15.000 km sau 1 an. La inceput am schimbat la 20.000 km uleiul pana la 80.000 km, cand am schimbat si distributia, conform cartii. Daca tot sunt uleiuri de calitate nu inteleg de ce trebuie sa fac revizia la 8000-10.000 km?!!!

Explicatia e simpla.

Uleiul, si daca sta in baie, in timp, se altereaza. Apoi, ai diferentele termice din Romania, care se duc pana la 60 grade, cu restul fenomenelor fizice de rigoare. Apoi ai traficul greu din Romania. Nu avem un rulaj semnificativ pe autostrazi, unde motoarele si uleiurile, ca toata masina de altfel, se "simt" cel mai bine. Motive pt care eu fac schimb anual, indiferent de km.

Oare de ce producatorii de masini recomanda termene de schimb mai mari la consumabile in vest decat in est ? Stiu ca exista povesti cu jupuirea clientilor & shit. Adevaratul motiv e altul - stresul diferit suportat de masini in cele doua "lumi". Uleiul nu are cum sa faca exceptie.

Poti sa-l schimbi la 15k daca-i faci intr-un an, dar nu sa astepti sa faci 15k indiferent de timp.


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Poate explici cum s-a schimbat clina dintr-o data in Romania pe 2 februarie 2008 cand de exemplu Dacia a decis sa mareasca intervalul de servisare cu 5000 km.


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Nu clima s-a schimbat ci marketingul. Si asta din cauza desteptarii clientilor.

Eu schimb uleiul anual la 1 noiebrie indiferent de Km (nu am depasit totusi 21-22.000Km). Probabil daca atingeam 30.000Km schimbam tactica.

Ce se uzeaza intr-un ulei nu este baza de w40 sau w30 ci aditivii pentru iarna care dau acel 0 sau 5 din fata si care ajuta la pornirea la rece. De asta ii prefer proaspeti la inceputul sezonului rece.


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Salutare tuturor

Ca si proaspat posesor al unui Megane 2 hatchback, 1.5dci, 82cp (motor K9KD7), an de fabricatie 12.2004, vreau sa-i schimb uleiul si am nevoie de ajutor:

1. Tipul asta de motor are DPF (se poate verifica de un amator daca are ?)
2. Ce tip de ulei trebuie in functie de raspunsul la intrebarea de mai sus?

Din ce am citit in cartea tehnica si pe forum, recomandat este Elf 5W40.
Le-am dat un mesaj cu VIN-ul masinii celor de la Renault Romania pentru o oferta de pret si acolo au trecut ceva de genul ULEI ELF 5W30 DPF, la un pret de 45.59 RON litrul.


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1. Cu siguranta nu ai DPF.
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