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surub clapeta acceleratie, am dereglat surubul si acum consuma mai mult

cristiddy
post 15 Dec 2016, 07:18
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Salut,am si eu o problema,m-a mancat undeva sa modific pozitia surubelului din spatele cablului de acceleratie si acum consuma mai mult,daca il strang turatia creste daca il destrang merge balbait dar turatia scade,care ar fii reglajul corect?masina este renault megane grandtour 1.6 16v din 2000 smile.gif


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post 15 Dec 2016, 09:21
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Cea mai buna solutie de reglaj este schimbi clapeta....cu una la care n-a umblat nimeni la surubul respectiv!


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post 15 Dec 2016, 12:15
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Adica noua?la una sh de unde pot stii daca s-a umblat sau nu?,nu se poate aduce la poz initiala dupa o alta clapeta ?


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post 15 Dec 2016, 16:35
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Se vede imediat cand umbli la surub...are vopsea sigiliu/antidesfacere.
La a ta poti sa faci reglajul manual cu ajutorul unui tester.....si mester priceput!

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post 15 Dec 2016, 19:07
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Ms mult expacern,incep sa caut un mester in satu mare sa vad ce zice


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post 22 Dec 2016, 23:29
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Cu ce ar afecta acel surub consumul? din el reglezi doar relantiul. Nu cred ca au legatura



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post 23 Dec 2016, 07:16
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Nu stiu ce sa cred nici eu,am fost la reprezentanta aici in sm,masina a fost pusa pe tester cica nu poate sa o regleze,la relanti clapeta sta 9.8% deschisa fiind apasata acceleratia se deschide pana la 89.5% aia fiind maximul,mai putin se poatr regla pana in 9% dar atunci parca merge motorul in 3 pistoane. Mecanicul Nu stie cat e % initiala la un motor sanatos smile.gif)
Acel surub cica ar face amestecul aer-benzina deci cu cat mai mult aer cu atat mai multa b nzina injectata,nu rotiti ca nu e de rotit smile.gif)


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post 25 Dec 2016, 11:14
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Eu am 1.4 8v si am umblat la acel surub pentru ca aveam impresia ca relantiul e prea mic, dar cand il strangeam se tura 2 secunde iar motorasul pas cu pas o aducea iar la 750 rpm, iar daca il slabeam tot acelasi lucru se intampla. Motorasul pas cu pas aducea motorul la o turatie. Asa ca problema la tine e motorasul pas cu pas. Poti sa il curati si sa ii ungi axul. Daca te ajuta la mine pe tester clapeta trebuie sa stea la 17.3%

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post 26 Dec 2016, 11:59
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Ciao si un Craciun fericit!

De un an si ceva mi se aude in partea dreapta a pasgerului cam in dreptul motorasului pas cu pas un sunet ca de minipicamar ( doar pana in 50km/h si doar la accelerari fine). Dupa curatarea bujilor zgomotul a aprut mai puternic sesizabil doar de mine, care cunosc bine masina.
Am crezut ca este de la ceva roata sau capac ... dar se manifesta si cand stau pe loc la relanti.Ce pareri aveti?
multumesc anticipat!

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post 28 Dec 2016, 10:38
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Scoate mufa de la canistra carbon.....si vezi daca se mai aude zgomotul!


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post 28 Dec 2016, 15:46
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Ciao!
Prima data am scos mufa de aer de la butelie dar se tura pana in 4000. atunci am scos mufa de alimentare si se pare ca acel zgomot a disparut.
Imi poti spune ce rol are acea butelie si daca o anulezi ce probleme pot aparea?

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post 28 Dec 2016, 17:43
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Are rol de recirculare vapori de benzina....pentru reducere poluare/protectie mediu adica.


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post 24 Jan 2017, 18:26
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Revin cu o noua problema,saptama trecuta venind de la munca am vrut sa fac o depasire si am obs ca nu masinuta nu ma mai ajuta in depasire,am duso la mecanic care zicea ca e de la injectoare,mergea in 3 pistoane,am schimbat 2 injectoare,2 le-am curatat,acum masina merge ,dar nu mai are vlaga in accelerari,are niste smucituri in timpul acc pana in 3000 rpm,si se mai aud niste rateuri mici pe toba la relanti


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post 24 Jan 2017, 18:28
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Bobine/bujii/mufele lor?


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post 24 Jan 2017, 18:35
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Bujii schimbate,bobine ok,la toate 4 daca scot mufa motorul da sa moara

24 Jan 2017, 19:05:
Pompa de benzina poate sa fie?am gasit azi o siguranta la alim uch arsa,dar mergea cb si cu ea arsa

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post 24 Jan 2017, 21:11
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Vreo supapa care nu etanseaza bine.....scoate bujiile si vezi daca arata toate uscate/normal.


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post 24 Jan 2017, 21:35
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Acum 2 zile am schimbat toate 4 bujiile pt ca erau ruginite dupa nici 3000 km,interesant e ca nu mi-a facut asta pana sambata,masina mergea normal,rotund fara rateuri in toba


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post 24 Jan 2017, 21:38
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Rugina la bujie=prezenta de apa!

Apa la bujie=functionare deficitara!


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post 24 Jan 2017, 21:50
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Chiar si dupa ce le-am pus toate noi?


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post 24 Jan 2017, 21:59
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Nu ma intreba pe mine....scoate bobina si uita-te bine daca nu e umezeala acolo jos la bujie.


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post 24 Jan 2017, 22:27
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Am sa o scot maine si am sa ma uit,mersi

25 Jan 2017, 14:24:
Am scos bobinele si nici urma de umezeala,maine dimineata la ora 9 e programata pt service,revin cu noutati

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post 27 Jan 2017, 20:10
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Acum 2 ore am scos masina din servis,surpriza,tot asa face doar ca mai rar,au schimbat din nou bujii au facut teste de compresie,de injectie totul ok,pe tester nici o eroare macar nu stiu ce sa ii mai fac unde sa o mai duc,o sa astept sa treaca iarna poate a prins undeva umezeala,vechile bujii,nu astea care au fost schimbate acum erau ruginite in partea de sus,sub bobina de inductie....


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post 8 Feb 2017, 20:43
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Salutare,satul de masina ca tot imi dadea rateuri in mers m-am apucat singur de cautat problema,si se pare ca am rezolvato.
Am luat borna + de la baterie,am curatat toti senzorii si mufele acestora si masina si-a revenit ca prin minune,nu mai are rateuri si trage frumos si lin la orice turatie!!!
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Ultimele 2 poze sunt cu motorul oprit

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post 25 Feb 2017, 20:20
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salut,am un megan1 1.6 8v grandtur 1999 si am aceasi problema
mai am si martori de la buji si o rezistenta aprinsa in bord,merge ca in 3 pistoane si da rateuri in toba.
poti sa imi zici mai exact ce i/ai facut de ai scapat de probleme???


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post 3 Apr 2017, 21:02
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Salut, schiimbat injectoarele ,si acum totul e okok,prima data vezi daca distributia tie pusa ok


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