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Motor Supernova pe R Super5

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post 11 Dec 2006, 17:38
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se poate adapta pe un super5 motor de supernova ?


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post 13 Dec 2006, 16:43
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daca nu ma insel ultimile modele de R super 5 fabricate aveau motor de 1390 cmc (cred ca este acelasi de supernova)


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post 13 Dec 2006, 16:46
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pardon: ultimele


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post 13 Dec 2006, 18:12
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de adaptat se poate, insa eu n-am auzit de 1390cmc pe r5, motoare cu injectie au fost 1397cmc monopunct si 1721cmc multipunct.


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post 14 Dec 2006, 02:32
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C3J e si de 1390cc (43kw).
La 5-ul meu (C407 cu motor C3J-E760), in talon scrie ca are 1397cc cu 44kw dar exista materiale pe net in care este mentionat 1390cc/43kw.

Si eu m-am gandit la chestia asta, dar mi s-a parut mult prea complicat.

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Astia zic ca C3J era de 1390/43kw: http://thesupercinq.free.fr/C3J.htm
Dar sigur era si de 1397/44kw.
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post 19 Dec 2006, 13:43
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Vazand cate piese se potrivesc mi-a trecut si mie prin minte ca SupeRNova ar avea un motor care exista deja pe vremea R5ului. Ar fi un detaliu important daca motorul respectiv pe Renault a fost pe injectie sau nu. Cel din poza e clar pe carburator, pe cand din cate stiu Supernova e pe injectie (si aprindere electronica, dar asta nu inseamna schimbari mari) si astfel ar putea avea piese din cauza carora motorul nu se mai potriveste fie pe suporturi fie la cutia de viteze, sau pur si simplu nu are loc (Ca e cam inghesuit compartimentul motor la R5, chiar si la 1.1). Scuze pt raspunsul aproximativ, as fi vrut sa ma documentez mai bine dar momentan nu am de unde.


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post 19 Dec 2006, 23:52
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Motorul din poza e pe injectie monopunct. Din asta am eu pe masina. (cod C3J)

E cu un singur injector, care scuipa benzina in galeria de admisie prin chestia aia care seamana cu un carburator (nu stiu cum se numeste exact), deci nu are injector pe fiecare cilindru cum sunt motoarele mai noi.

Are soc automat si cativa senzori: temp apa, temp aer, sonda lambda, mai are termocupla pe radiator si inca un senzor pe pompa de apa. Calculatorul e sub bord, la picioarele pasagerului.
Tot sistemul de aprindere e electronic si e facut de Renix.
Transmisia e pe lant.

Daca nu ma insel, acelasi sistem de injectie (doar ca era Bosch) a fost folosit pe Novele 1.6i si apoi pe berlinele care aveau un mare sticker pe luneta cu "Dacia cu motor pe injectie" biggrin.gif

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Injectie pe R5, mai era pe motorul F3N (GTX de 1700cc/75cp) care avea acelasi tip de injectie cu C3J. Si mai era GTE-ul tot de 1.7, cu injectie multipunct si 96 su 98 cp.

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tomi87
post 20 Dec 2006, 11:27
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da, ai dreptate, nu m-am uitat bine la poza, acolo sunt niste tevi de inalta presiune, ar fi trebuit sa-mi dau seama chiar daca e prima oara cand vad cum arata sistemul acesta, iar ce la prima vedere am confundat cu delco clasic nu e. mii de scuze worship.gif


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post 21 Dec 2006, 20:07
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al meu e C2J, 1387cc, 53kW
multi zic ca s-ar potrivi, dar n-am auzit pe nimeni care sa-l si schimbe smile.gif


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post 9 Feb 2016, 21:05
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