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Ce tip de ulei folositi?

Ce tip de ulei folositi?
 
0W30 [ 2 ] ** [0.50%]
0W40 [ 8 ] ** [1.99%]
5W40 [ 255 ] ** [63.43%]
10W40 [ 117 ] ** [29.10%]
15W40 [ 8 ] ** [1.99%]
20W50 [ 1 ] ** [0.25%]
Folosesc un alt tip de ulei [ 10 ] ** [2.49%]
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post 29 Sep 2007, 14:06
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Dupa cum spune si titlul topicului: Ce fel de ulei folositi si de ce? tongue.gif


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post 29 Sep 2007, 14:07
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Elf c-asa a zis francezu' wink.gif


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post 29 Sep 2007, 18:00
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Si de ce utilizezi 5W40? tongue.gif


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post 29 Sep 2007, 18:08
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10W40, tot ca asa a zis francezu'.

5W30 mai la iarna wink.gif


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post 29 Sep 2007, 21:09
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ELF 5W40 la ambele masini...de ce? nu stiu....asa.... smile.gif

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post 29 Sep 2007, 21:21
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5w40, ca e sintetic si mobil1 ca asa a fost sa fie, dar trec pe total quartz 9000 pe care l-am luat pt urm schimb. E sintetic si "subtire" ideal iarna la porniri la rece si ok vara daca nu il mananca.


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post 30 Sep 2007, 13:01
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Elf 5W40 ca sunt multumit de cum merge motorul cu el.
La uleiuri, primul grup de numere sunt un indiciu despre temperaturile scazute, adica, cu cat il folosesti intr-un mediu mai rece, cu atat trebuie sa fie primul grup cat mai mic, iar al doilea grup conteaza pentru temperaturile ridicate, atinse de motor in timpul functionarii. Pentru motoarele ce nu se incalzesc prea tare, e suficient W30 (la Matiz era suficient, ca nu trecea acul de temperatura peste jumatate nici sa-l impusti), la cele la care creste mai mult temperatura, e necesar 40.
10w40 nu merita sa pui la un motor Renault de generatie noua cu mai putin de 100 de mii de km in bord, de 15w40 nu mai discut, asta era ulei de Oltcit, 20w50 e de dacie d-aia zabaloasa, astea le pui doar la urgenta, pana la primul service.
0w30 nu merita la conditiile climatice de la noi, poate doar in Suedia, Norvegia, Rusia, etc. Cat timp demarorul invarte usor iarna la minus 15 grade, nu e nevoie de sub 5w(30 sau 40).
Insa mai sunt si altele care diferentiaza uleiurile, si aici enumar clasa acestuia, S pentru benzinare si C pentru diesel, la benzinare intalnim API SJ, SK, SL, SM si la diesel, CE, CF, etc.
Ar mai fi apoi specificatiile producatorilor, un tip de ulei poate sa fie excelent pentru un tip de motor si dezastruos pentru altul, nu se aplica regula "scump si bun" intotdeauna, un ulei LongLife pentru VAG (care poate fi tinut zeci de mii de km in motoarele VAG) ar putea fi inferior in motoarele Reno, de exemplu, chiar consumat.

De aceea, in alegerea unui ulei, cand te uit pe bidon, in primul rand te uiti la tip, si anume sa fie cel cerut de motor, gen 5W40, 10W40, etc, apoi pe spate, la specificatii, sa cautati specificatiile fiecarui producator, veti vedea acolo scris VW 505.11, sau BMW Longlife, sau GM LL, etc, Peugeot, etc. Cautati specificatiile Renault pe bidoane. Ele sunt garantia ca uleiul cautat este potrivit pentru motorul vostru, in caz contrar va puteti trezi ca uleiul este consumat de catre motor, fara a exista o uzura la mijloc.


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post 30 Sep 2007, 14:48
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5w-40 elf excellium, "c-asa a zis francezu"™ smile.gif
Ma bate, totusi, un gand sa incerc un Mobil Synt S. Parca, totusi, dupa 7-8k elf-ul arata cam prea negru pe joja.


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post 30 Sep 2007, 15:09
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Am o intrebare in legatura cu uleiul ELF Excellium. De ce este mai scump fata de celelalte uleiuri ELF? Are ceva in plus? unsure.gif


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post 30 Sep 2007, 15:23
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Este sintetic..celelalte sunt semi..sau minerale..


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post 30 Sep 2007, 15:27
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Cred ca la primul schimb de ulei pe care-l voi face, voi baga Excellium 5W40! blush.gif


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post 30 Sep 2007, 23:41
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5w40 e full-sintetic, 10w40 e semisintetic (si mineral adica) iar de la 15w40 incolo sunt uleiuri minerale. Valabil la toate uleiurile, nu numai la ELF.
De aceea un ulei gen 5w40 costa cam 25-30 ron litrul, iar unul gen 20w40 costa 30 ron 5 litri.
Daca vreti ulei ELF, trageti o fuga pe la Metro, Selgros, unde gasiti 4 litri la sub 100 ron, in timp ce in oras dati 130 ron pe acelasi bidon, nu-mi dau seama de unde e diferenta asta enorma. Nu va pacaliti cu "schimb gratuit", schimbul de ulei costa 15 ron pe oriunde.
Mai adaugati si cca 15-20 ron pentru filtrul de ulei.

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post 1 Oct 2007, 10:09
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ELF 10w40


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post 1 Oct 2007, 10:23
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5W40 Elf Excellium. Pentru ca e recomandat de Renault si pentru ca pana acum motorul a mers foarte bine cu el.


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post 5 Oct 2007, 19:55
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Se apropie momentul sa fac schimbul si nici acum nu m-am hotarat intre 5w40 unsure.gif si 10w40.

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Si daca nu reusesc sa ma hotarasc, ce ar fi daca le-as amesteca in proportii egale, 50% -5W40, 50% -10W40 biggrin.gif ?

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post 6 Oct 2007, 14:36
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QUOTE(dan73205 @ 5 Oct 2007, 20:55)
Se apropie momentul sa fac schimbul si nici acum nu m-am hotarat intre 5w40  unsure.gif  si 10w40.


De asta am deschis si eu topic-ul... ca eram nehotarat. Dar intre timp m-am hotarat si am ales: ELF Excellium 5W40. wink.gif


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post 6 Oct 2007, 21:37
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Eu nu am pus chiar aiurea intrebarea. Am citit undeva un material ce parea bine documentat, cum ca nu e bine sa schimbi brusc tipul de ulei folosit, chiar e indicat ca la proximul schimb sa faci un melanj intre vechiul tip si noul ulei pe care vrei sa il folosesti. Problema mea e ca atunci cand am cumparat masina din Germania nu mi-a trecut prin cap sa il intreb pe fostul proprietar ce ulei foloseste si nici in portbagaj nu avea vreun bidon

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post 7 Oct 2007, 19:26
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Sincer eu n-am auzit de chestia asta cu 50% -5W40, 50% -10W40...o fii nu te contrazic... ph34r.gif


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post 7 Oct 2007, 22:12
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dane , NICIODATA nu se amesteca doua tipuri de ulei diferite; si cand cumperi ulei sa completezi ,in timp, cumperi acelasi tip si marca de ulei ca cel din motor!


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post 8 Oct 2007, 01:18
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Pai eu te cred Octav, dar problema e ca nu stiu ce ulei a pus in motor tipul care a avut masina (care, apropo, era mecanic in reprezentanta/service-ul de unde am luat masina). Eu am completat un pic cu 5W40....insa nu o sa mai fie nevoie de completare pana la schimb.

A, uite ca am realizat unde am citit ceva asemanator, in postul lui R19/16V si cu permisiunea lui il reiau, dar mai era un alt site in care se zicea expres chestia asta dar nu mai dau deloc de el.
http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html

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post 20 Oct 2007, 21:16
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Schimbat uleiul. Nu am gasit Elf excellium 5W40 si am pus Elf Evolution SXR 5W40 (cam acelasi pret). Cica e conceput special pt motoarele diesel cu common rail. Ce parere aveti?
S-au scurs din motor fix 4 litri desi aveam doar doua liniute si restul cerculete. Au intrat 4.6 L si acuma e la maxim si pe joja si la bord. Sa fie diferenta de la filtrul de ulei? Cam mare oricum.

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si mie mi-au bagat la revizia de 50.000 tot evolution... cand am intrebat de excellium, au spus ca este acelasi ulei, dar din ratiuni de marketing au schimbat eticheta...


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renault recomanda elf dar nu impune aceasta marca. specificatile tehnice sunt importante. eu folosesc 5W40 texaco havoline.


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Poate cineva sa explice de ce au intrat in motor 4.6 l cand s-au scurs din el doar 4 litri? Acuma e la maxim iar inainte de schimb arata uneori doua linii alteori o linie (in functie de pozitia mai mult sau mai putin inclinata a masinii, banuiesc). Mi se pare cam mare diferenta cu atat mai mult cu cat, nu sunt 100% sigur, dar, filtrul a fost scurs tot in acelasi vas.


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Elf 10W40 Turbodiesel ca asa a recomadat constructorul... si il schimb la 10.000 de km la ambele masini impreuna cu toate filtrele..


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Elf 5W30, ca asta se pune la reprezentanta unde imi fac eu intretinerea masinii.


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10w40 Mobil1 si Elf , depinde de cum gasesc. Am facut 3 schimburi de ulei si merge bine, nu consuma ulei si nu am alte probl. Masina are 145k km.
Am inteles ca daca nu schimbi uleiul (tipul, firma) nu trebuie sa schimbi neaparat si filtrul, (bineinteles ca daca nu faci operatia la reprezentanta). Eu le-am schimbat ca deh, pt 25 roni stai linistit.

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Nu merita sa te zgarcesti la 20 de ron la filtru.
De obicei, cand schimbi tipul de ulei, se recomanda un "Engine flush", care curata eventualele depuneri. Costa cam 10 ron. Solutia se toarna in uleiul vechi, se lasa motorul la relanti 5-10 minute, dupa care se scurge uleiul, se schimba filtrul, se toarna ulei nou si "Drum bun".


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La Dacie am facut "Engine Flush" si a avut un efect benefic.
Imediat dupa acel schimb de ulei (pe la 30.000), motorul parca mergea mai "lin".
La Megane ... hmm ... parca mi-e teama.
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